McGregor's actual mentality going into this fight.

[-Antonio-]

Bro, no **** there's a difference in MMA and boxing striking, but to say that a guy as quick and pinpoint accurate as Floyd doesn't have a chance to land a clean chin shot on him is asinine.

And no one's saying he can last more than a round. That's kind of the point of my post. I'm clearly saying he can land that kill shot before anything really happens in the match. At the end of the day, they start off standing, and Floyd still has incredible movement and agility. He's not some lumbering guy like Maidana that can't move in and out to save his life.

And boxing is always >>>> kickboxing, because of the speed at which you can throw your blows. Kicks need to be setup, and thrown at distance, and feet fully planted. A punch is thrown at any distance, and with no setup, and with fleet feet. You can step into a kick, and land your punch faster than your opponent can get full extension on his kick, if you train a few months in kick defense, and some anti grappling training.

That's why I always say at the end of the day the master boxer is better than the MMA fighter, because the master boxer can train a year or 2 in TDD, and some kick defense training, while the MMA fighter could never just enter the ring and beat a master boxer.

Conor uses his lead leg like a jab. It's quick and it's not hard to land because all fights start at a distance. Conor is linger than Floyd. Floyd would have to figure out how to stop that.

Look there's no doubt in my mind who the better athlete is. If Floyd decided to train MMA at the age of 22 for 5-7 years I have no doubt he would have been an MMA champ. But it takes a while to get that timing down for kicks too.

But Conor is the perfect example of a guy who doesn't need ability on the ground. He just needs good TDD and great striking. So when I hear MMA fans say boxers would get beaten up by amateurs I laugh. As if all boxers never wrestled before.

[Eff Pandas]

But Conor is the perfect example of a guy who doesn't need ability on the ground. He just needs good TDD and great striking. So when I hear MMA fans say boxers would get beaten up by amateurs I laugh. As if all boxers never wrestled before.

I mean I'd bet 98% of boxers HAVEN'T wrestled before so its not far off from all boxers lol.

And you need better then "good TDD" cuz if a guy who doesn't have a ground game gets taken down its curtains. Look at Conor himself for that. His ground game is garbage & 3 times he's been down with BJJ guys & 3 times he submitted QUICK. If Chad Mendes had any BJJ high level game he'd probably had subbed Conor too, but he's a lil guy wrestlef#ck meathead so once he takes you down he just humps you til you make it to your feet again more or less.

Idk why boxing fans are so committed to thinking boxers could potentially kill it in these other combat sports if only...blah blah blah. If my uncle had a ***** he'd be my aunt. Boxers are ill prepared to contend with combat sports competitors in non-boxing combat sports. The reality is most boxers have been boxing & only boxing since they were 8 to 16 til their present age & most combat sports guys have engaged in multiple disciplines since they were 8 to 16 til their present age. Thats putting a boxer behind the 8 ball vs the more versatile guy in any combat sport except boxing.

Sure there are outliers & there are boxers who've done more combat sports who wouldn't be dead in the water or struggling like most boxers, but mostly what I said above is going to be the story for most boxers engaging in a non-boxing combat sport.

[CatchAndShoot]

Conor uses his lead leg like a jab. It's quick and it's not hard to land because all fights start at a distance. Conor is linger than Floyd. Floyd would have to figure out how to stop that.

Look there's no doubt in my mind who the better athlete is. If Floyd decided to train MMA at the age of 22 for 5-7 years I have no doubt he would have been an MMA champ. But it takes a while to get that timing down for kicks too.

But Conor is the perfect example of a guy who doesn't need ability on the ground. He just needs good TDD and great striking. So when I hear MMA fans say boxers would get beaten up by amateurs I laugh. As if all boxers never wrestled before.

Exactly. And boxers don't even need elite TDD. Just good enough to lay one on an MMA fighters chin.

[CatchAndShoot]

I mean I'd bet 98% of boxers HAVEN'T wrestled before so its not far off from all boxers lol.

And you need better then "good TDD" cuz if a guy who doesn't have a ground game gets taken down its curtains. Look at Conor himself for that. His ground game is garbage & 3 times he's been down with BJJ guys & 3 times he submitted QUICK. If Chad Mendes had any BJJ high level game he'd probably had subbed Conor too, but he's a lil guy wrestlef#ck meathead so once he takes you down he just humps you til you make it to your feet again more or less.

Idk why boxing fans are so committed to thinking boxers could potentially kill it in these other combat sports if only...blah blah blah. If my uncle had a ***** he'd be my aunt. Boxers are ill prepared to contend with combat sports competitors in non-boxing combat sports. The reality is most boxers have been boxing & only boxing since they were 8 to 16 til their present age & most combat sports guys have engaged in multiple disciplines since they were 8 to 16 til their present age. Thats putting a boxer behind the 8 ball vs the more versatile guy in any combat sport except boxing.

Sure there are outliers & there are boxers who've done more combat sports who wouldn't be dead in the water or struggling like most boxers, but mostly what I said above is going to be the story for most boxers engaging in a non-boxing combat sport.

Because they can kill it in other combat sports. Notice how all the top tier champs, and contenders have one thing in common. "Elite" hands/boxing for their division.

Mighty Mouse
Cody Garbrandt (You saw the ass whooping he put on Dominick with his superior footwork, and boxing)
Max Holloway (used his superior boxing to whoop Aldo's ass)
Conor
Whitaker (straight up boxer that can kick, and has good TDD, but most importantly, elite boxer for his division).
Stipe Miocic (best boxer in the division, and mainly only uses boxing to KO his opponents. Of course good wrestling, but boxing is his main thing to destroy his opponents).

[MeiXiang]

He doesn't care about losing. He's thinking to himself that as long as he does well in spurts he will get the biggest payday of almost any other boxer and he will be fine with that. He doesn't think he's going to win - no way does he actually think that.

[CatchAndShoot]

He doesn't care about losing. He's thinking to himself that as long as he does well in spurts he will get the biggest payday of almost any other boxer and he will be fine with that. He doesn't think he's going to win - no way does he actually think that.

There's almost literally no way he actually believes he can beat Floyd in BOXING. He's too smart to actually believe this. To say he actually believes that is saying you think he's dumb. Not uber confident, but plain, dumb.

[MeiXiang]

There's almost literally no way he actually believes he can beat Floyd in BOXING. He's too smart to actually believe this. To say he actually believes that is saying you think he's dumb. Not uber confident, but plain, dumb.

Yep, agreed - of course in Boxing.

[Eff Pandas]

Because they can kill it in other combat sports. Notice how all the top tier champs, and contenders have one thing in common. "Elite" hands/boxing for their division.

Mighty Mouse
Cody Garbrandt (You saw the ass whooping he put on Dominick with his superior footwork, and boxing)
Max Holloway (used his superior boxing to whoop Aldo's ass)
Conor
Whitaker (straight up boxer that can kick, and has good TDD, but most importantly, elite boxer for his division).
Stipe Miocic (best boxer in the division, and mainly only uses boxing to KO his opponents. Of course good wrestling, but boxing is his main thing to destroy his opponents).

Not sure what you are even taking issue with with what I said. But you definitely need more than "elite" hands in MMA & all the guys you mention got more than "elite" hands. Miocic needs less cuz not unlike in boxing the big guys in MMA are more basic & rely on power above all else. Thats why I've said I could see a guy like Anthony Joshua actaully fighting in the cage one day in some super fight. There are more fights at HW that have few to no takedown attempts & its all striking & often its mostly just boxing with some more intense grappling going on then you see in the ring.

[Szef]

I don't think he thinks he can win, but I'm sure he will do everything in his power and try to do it anyway. He's not interested in just surviving.

[CatchAndShoot]

I don't think he thinks he can win, but I'm sure he will do everything in his power and try to do it anyway. He's not interested in just surviving.

Oh no doubt. He's not gonna just lay down for him.