McGregor's actual mentality going into this fight.

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  • Igorunso
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    #21
    Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
    Once it gets to grappling territory, it's over for him, but before that, you'd have to be crazy to think Floyd has no chance to land a pin point laser beam on his chin, before it gets to that. I honestly give Floyd a decent chance in an MMA fight.
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    Conor sparring a boxer with mma rules. No disrespect but you guys need to get a sense of the different distance that is used in mma. Same thing why conor looks so **** in boxing. Setting up his left with kicks is a go to move and counter guys with his left while they throw punch from much wider distance because of kicks.

    Conor by all senses should be killed by may in boxing. In mma may would not last a round I m sorry lads.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Igorunso
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      Conor sparring a boxer with mma rules. No disrespect but you guys need to get a sense of the different distance that is used in mma. Same thing why conor looks so **** in boxing. Setting up his left with kicks is a go to move and counter guys with his left while they throw punch from much wider distance because of kicks.

      Conor by all senses should be killed by may in boxing. In mma may would not last a round I m sorry lads.
      Bro, no **** there's a difference in MMA and boxing striking, but to say that a guy as quick and pinpoint accurate as Floyd doesn't have a chance to land a clean chin shot on him is asinine.

      And no one's saying he can last more than a round. That's kind of the point of my post. I'm clearly saying he can land that kill shot before anything really happens in the match. At the end of the day, they start off standing, and Floyd still has incredible movement and agility. He's not some lumbering guy like Maidana that can't move in and out to save his life.

      And boxing is always >>>> kickboxing, because of the speed at which you can throw your blows. Kicks need to be setup, and thrown at distance, and feet fully planted. A punch is thrown at any distance, and with no setup, and with fleet feet. You can step into a kick, and land your punch faster than your opponent can get full extension on his kick, if you train a few months in kick defense, and some anti grappling training.

      That's why I always say at the end of the day the master boxer is better than the MMA fighter, because the master boxer can train a year or 2 in TDD, and some kick defense training, while the MMA fighter could never just enter the ring and beat a master boxer.
      Last edited by CatchAndShoot; 08-06-2017, 05:09 AM.

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        #23
        As he should. A 12 round decision win by Mayweather isn't impressive as Conor going the distance. Kudos to Conor if he makes it all the way. If Mayweather doesn't stop him then shame on him for eternity.

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          #24
          Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
          Once it gets to grappling territory, it's over for him, but before that, you'd have to be crazy to think Floyd has no chance to land a pin point laser beam on his chin, before it gets to that. I honestly give Floyd a decent chance in an MMA fight.
          Of course bro. If Urijah Faber had ring movement like Floyd, none of those leg kicks would've landed from Aldo, that's how good Floyd is on a pounce back. Of course this is all theoritical, but I for one am hoping Floyd considers the Octagon because he has nothing to prove in boxing. I take it Floyd vs Conor in the Octagon, with an attendance like Holm vs Rousey and PPV would double what it will currently do. The speed that Floyd would have with 4oz would be interesting. Shít Id love to see body jabbing in MMA from Floyd, Ward, and even Kovalev. The speed in which these guys can retract would put some hurt Witt any MMA fighter in a boxing stance.

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            #25
            Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
            Bro, trust me, I know exactly how Conor operates, and I know how incredibly smart he is when it comes to fighting, which is why I thought of this. He knows the deepest facets of fighting, and HAS TO KNOW that he can't compete with a guy like Floyd in his own sport.

            I'm sure he can come off like he believes, because why in the **** would he secretly tell a guy like Paulie that this is just a money grab, and him taking this serious doesn't really indicate that he truly thinks he's gonna win. It indicates that he's a pro fighter that always trains like a beast for any form of competition.

            I just don't buy it. Deep down, we all know this i just a money grab, and there's just no way he thinks he can actually beat a guy that can plan 10 moves ahead of his own moves, before he even thinks of throwing a punch.
            I don't think you appreciate the level of delusion one can have when they've touched the level of success Conor has. This mfer was on welfare 4 years ago. He was 12-2, 13-2 or some such sh^t. He had to L's where he was subbed ****** quick (70 seconds or less), one time to a MMA journeyman. Now he's the biggest active draw in combat sports. He's shot called several fights ala young Ali. He's become the first fighter in UFC history to win titles in two divisions at the same time.

            Conor is delusional as f#ck like many great fighters often are. You gotta be a lil f#cking delusional to be #1 in virtually anything. I think being delusional is a net positive in this sorta environment despite many trying to make it out to be a bad thing.

            Regardless doe this cat FOR SURE believes he can win. I have zero doubt he thinks that. Reality is a mfer doe & how soon into the Aug. 26 fight doubt & fear creep into his being we will have to wait & see, but its always easier to be confident before the fight starts.

            And hell yea this is a money grab. Most of the biggest boxing fights that happen in recent years are money grabs. Money grabs run boxing. Doesn't have anything to do with a guy not trying to win or believing he can win.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              Of course bro. If Urijah Faber had ring movement like Floyd, none of those leg kicks would've landed from Aldo, that's how good Floyd is on a pounce back. Of course this is all theoritical, but I for one am hoping Floyd considers the Octagon because he has nothing to prove in boxing. I take it Floyd vs Conor in the Octagon, with an attendance like Holm vs Rousey and PPV would double what it will currently do. The speed that Floyd would have with 4oz would be interesting. Shít Id love to see body jabbing in MMA from Floyd, Ward, and even Kovalev. The speed in which these guys can retract would put some hurt Witt any MMA fighter in a boxing stance.
              Yeah, people truly don't understand how fast and agile these cat like boxers are. I don't see anyone in MMA moving as quick as these guys, besides Cody Garbrandt and possibly Dominic Cruz. Boxers have mastered footwork, and speed of movement. Also, like you said, MMA fighters don't have that quick ass pounce back step like boxers.

              Oh yeah, and Anderson Siva had some sick footwork, and foot speed.

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                #27
                Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
                Bro, no **** there's a difference in MMA and boxing striking, but to say that a guy as quick and pinpoint accurate as Floyd doesn't have a chance to land a clean chin shot on him is asinine.

                And no one's saying he can last more than a round. That's kind of the point of my post. I'm clearly saying he can land that kill shot before anything really happens in the match. At the end of the day, they start off standing, and Floyd still has incredible movement and agility. He's not some lumbering guy like Maidana that can't move in and out to save his life.

                And boxing is always >>>> kickboxing, because of the speed at which you can throw your blows. Kicks need to be setup, and thrown at distance, and feet fully planted. A punch is thrown at any distance, and with no setup, and with fleet feet. You can step into a kick, and land your punch faster than your opponent can get full extension on his kick, if you train a few months in kick defense, and some anti grappling training.

                That's why I always say at the end of the day the master boxer is better than the MMA fighter, because the master boxer can train a year or 2 in TDD, and some kick defense training, while the MMA fighter could never just enter the ring and beat a master boxer.
                Bro - no offense - I completly agree with you. I m not one of the conor *****girls here.
                I just do sambo my whole life, which is comparible with a mma and saw hundreds of boxing base guys come and go in my gym.
                Its not simple as that. Floyd is the master of boxing. The problem with that is that parts of his fully automated footwork and movement is nullified in a mma match and can cost him for example a knee. If we argue that he lands in the first exchanges - why not. He need to change his 20+Years trained stance and forget about the shoulder roll and .. and ..

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  I don't think you appreciate the level of delusion one can have when they've touched the level of success Conor has. This mfer was on welfare 4 years ago. He was 12-2, 13-2 or some such sh^t. He had to L's where he was subbed ****** quick (70 seconds or less), one time to a MMA journeyman. Now he's the biggest active draw in combat sports. He's shot called several fights ala young Ali. He's become the first fighter in UFC history to win titles in two divisions at the same time.

                  Conor is delusional as f#ck like many great fighters often are. You gotta be a lil f#cking delusional to be #1 in virtually anything. I think being delusional is a net positive in this sorta environment despite many trying to make it out to be a bad thing.

                  Regardless doe this cat FOR SURE believes he can win. I have zero doubt he thinks that. Reality is a mfer doe & how soon into the Aug. 26 fight doubt & fear creep into his being we will have to wait & see, but its always easier to be confident before the fight starts.

                  And hell yea this is a money grab. Most of the biggest boxing fights that happen in recent years are money grabs. Money grabs run boxing. Doesn't have anything to do with a guy not trying to win or believing he can win.
                  I bet you anything that he doesn't truly think he can win. And a lot of boxing money grabs are still between 2 elite boxers that are BOXERS. This is a money grab in the truest sense.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Igorunso
                    Bro - no offense - I completly agree with you. I m not one of the conor *****girls here.
                    I just do sambo my whole life, which is comparible with a mma and saw hundreds of boxing base guys come and go in my gym.
                    Its not simple as that. Floyd is the master of boxing. The problem with that is that parts of his fully automated footwork and movement is nullified in a mma match and can cost him for example a knee. If we argue that he lands in the first exchanges - why not. He need to change his 20+Years trained stance and forget about the shoulder roll and .. and ..
                    I'm not gonna argue that with you, since you have some experience in Sambo, but I'm telling you, a boxer can train a few years in anti grappling, distance in MMA, and all that jazz, and do major damage.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
                      I bet you anything that he doesn't truly think he can win. And a lot of boxing money grabs are still between 2 elite boxers that are BOXERS. This is a money grab in the truest sense.
                      A money grab is a money grab.

                      I got more confidence Chavez Jr money grabbed (vs Canelo) with lil intent to try to win the fight then Conor will. Conor will go down swinging & trying to win. Chavez was trying to get maximum money with the least pain. Toney money grabbed in his UFC fight more then Conor is just there for the money. Just wait & see. Conor don't wanna go 12 rounds. He wants to KO Floyd or die trying...or quit when he can't do it lol. But he'll put in an honest effort to win the fight unlike so many other boxers have in money grab fights.

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