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  • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
    Already beat Pac. We know that.

    Will get in HOF. Guarantee it
    Yeah, but, not in reality he didn't.

    He might do because the standards are pretty low but should he? No.

    He definitely won't get in on the first ballot.

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    • I doubt he could have a chance against Thurman or Spence. Damn, I am not even sure he could beat Collazo.

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      • Loved your fights Tim. Thank you. You will be missed.

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        • Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
          I doubt he could have a chance against Thurman or Spence. Damn, I am not even sure he could beat Collazo.
          He hangs with the "fighter of the decade" for 36 rounds, winning many rounds, and you doubt he has a chance against Thurman or Spence? Sorry man, but you must be on something.

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          • Thanks for everything champ. It's been a great ride. See you in the HOF


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            • Originally posted by ddeg10 View Post
              He hangs with the "fighter of the decade" for 36 rounds, winning many rounds, and you doubt he has a chance against Thurman or Spence? Sorry man, but you must be on something.
              Let it go man. Too many people aren't willing to give pure boxers any credit. They don't like boxers that make their favorite fighter look basic in the ring.

              Notice that nobody gives any credit to any of the guys that beat Manny. There's always an excuse.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Yeah, but, not in reality he didn't.

                He might do because the standards are pretty low but should he? No.

                He definitely won't get in on the first ballot.
                We can say many guys "arguably" lost to XYZ. At the end of the day, it's counted as a W regardless of how accurate it is.

                Since the year 2007, Bradley has fought nothing but top 10 competition over a stretch of 9 years. He beat 14 champions. Aren't you always impressed by rankings and belts?

                #1 Ring Junior Witter WBC Strap
                #6 Ring Kendell Holt
                #1 Ring Nate Campbell
                #3 Ring Devon Alexander for the WBC/WBO unification
                #1 Ring P4P/#1 WW Manny Pacquiao for the WBO Strap
                #10 Ring Ruslan Provodnokov
                #3 Ring P4P/#2 Welterweight/#4 Junior Welterweight Juan Manuel Marquez
                #7 Ring Jesse Vargas

                This isn't even counting where his other opponents (i.e. Cassamayor, Peterson, Abregu, Vasquez, Cherry, etc) were ranked by the WBO/WBC/WBA at the time he beat other guys. This is only going by Ring rankings.

                5-time world champion in 2 different weight classes only having lost to Paquiao. He'll be just fine in the history books.
                Last edited by Chollo Vista; 08-06-2017, 05:40 PM.

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                • My first thought is that he's being premature with this, but it's his decision. He's only 33 and there still would've been a lot of big fights for him, he could've fought Spence, Thurman, Porter, Jeff Horn, Danny Garcia, Miguel Cotto among others. A lot of you saying he's a HOF fighter, I disagree but I think with wins over a couple of those guys it would be very hard to argue. It shows you guys how great of a fighter Mayweather is because he's dominated top competition for 20 years and here's a guy who after facing top guys for 9 years is like "I'm done". However, I do respect him and it's his decision. Some guys don't necessarily want to be considered all time great in the sport, it's like "win a few belts, make a few million, and then i'm set for the rest of my life". It's clear he's just not hungry at this point. For some guys it's just not that important. His career was very good, not great.

                  As for his career, it was good no doubt, but he did have a few controversial decisions (Pacquiao, Marquez, Provodnikov) it's not like he just beat these guys clearly. I always looked at him as like a B-Plus fighter which is why he signed with Arum so he could fight Pacquiao and not have to fight Floyd. He was talented but got by more by will than skill, I honestly don't know if he would beat the likes of Thurman/Spence so i'm not going to go all the way out there and say he's an ATG etc. I'm not hating on him at all, that's just my thoughts on him, he was a very good fighter who always came to fight, but could've done more than he did.

                  He'll probably be a good commentator if that's what he decides to do.
                  Last edited by JK1700; 08-06-2017, 05:40 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                    We can say many guys "arguably" lost to XYZ. At the end of the day, it's counted as a W regardless of how accurate it is.

                    Since the year 2007, Bradley has fought nothing but top 10 competition over a stretch of 9 years. He beat 14 champions. Aren't you always impressed by rankings and belts?

                    #1 Ring Junior Witter WBC Strap
                    #6 Ring Kendell Holt
                    #1 Ring Nate Campbell
                    #3 Ring Devon Alexander for the WBC/WBO unification
                    #1 Ring P4P/#1 WW Manny Pacquiao for the WBO Strap
                    #10 Ring Ruslan Provodnokov
                    #3 Ring P4P/#2 Welterweight/#4 Junior Welterweight Juan Manuel Marquez
                    #7 Ring Jesse Vargas

                    This isn't even counting where his other opponents (i.e. Cassamayor, Peterson, Abregu, Vasquez, Cherry, etc) were ranked by the WBO/WBC/WBA at the time he beat other guys. This is only going by Ring rankings.

                    5-time world champion in 2 different weight classes only having lost to Paquiao. He'll be just fine in the history books.
                    Nate Campbell #1? Are you sure. He doesn't have a W over Campbell anyway

                    Ruslan wasn't ranked in the division being fought in.

                    And we pretend he has a legit win over Pacquaio but in reality he doesn't. Blatant robbery.

                    What's you've listed is good but hardly great. 3 fighters legitimately beaten in the top 5.

                    HOF calibur? Not in my eyes but it's arguable I guess.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Nate Campbell #1? Are you sure. He doesn't have a W over Campbell anyway
                      I'm positive. I looked it up. And yes, he beat Nate's ass. The W was later reversed to a NC.

                      But yes, Nate was ranked Ring #1 at the time.

                      Ruslan wasn't ranked in the division being fought in.
                      Neither was Ricky Hatton or Marquez when FMJ fought them. That never stopped you from praising those victories, correct? Why so many double standards and inconsistencies?

                      And so you know, Provodnikov was the #3 WBO Welterweight when he fought Bradley.

                      What ranking was Hatton and Marquez at 147 when Floyd fought them?

                      And we pretend he has a legit win over Pacquaio but in reality he doesn't. Blatant robbery.
                      FMJ has arguable wins over Castillo, DLH and Maidana. I know of many people who think FMJ lost several of those fights.

                      FMJ thought he could've lost to DLH. Why do you think his knees buckled and he start crying when they said he won?

                      What's you've listed is good but hardly great. 3 fighters legitimately beaten in the top 5.
                      The other day you were talking about rankings and belts while mentioning Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana, etc. Tim Bradly beat 14 champions and 8 Top 10 Ring opponents. Why do you defend Mayweather over Maidana, but hate on Bradly for beating undefeated Devon Alexander who easily beat Maidana? Why do you hate on Bradley's win over Peterson, but love FMJ's win over Ortiz when Peterson kicked Ortiz' ass way before Floyd did?

                      HOF calibur? Not in my eyes but it's arguable I guess.
                      Ain't nothing arguable about beating 14 champions in 9 years. How many champions did FMJ beat from 2007-2015? Pretty sure it wasn't 14 champions.
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 08-06-2017, 06:04 PM.

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