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  • Madison Boxing
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    #11
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    Let me preface this by saying I really like watching Vasyl Lomachenko fight, and I think he has the potential to go down as one of the best ever.

    But, some have said the word "potential" just means you haven't really done shyt yet.

    I write all this to say that I am not ready to annoint him just yet and have serious reservations about how he would do against the better fighters in and around his weight.

    I think guys like Mikey Garcia, Miguel Berchelt, Terry Flanagan, Robert Easter Jr, and Gervonta Davis would pose serious problems to Lomachenko.

    All would have great shots at beating him...and I give Loma practically no chance against Mikey Garcia.

    Yes, Lomachenko looks the part. It's dazzling really.

    But, when Gary Russell Jr is the best guy you have fought, and when you have a legit loss to Orlando Salido, then no matter how good you may turn out to be, the truth is there are valid question marks NOW.

    Questions that can only be answered by fighting some or all of the names above.
    so you think he has the potential to go down as one of the best ever, but he has no chance against mikey garcia and then you reel off a whole list of fighters who you think have a serious chance of beating him? Including terry flanagan lol. You should have just cut the bull**** and said you think hes a hypejob.

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    • koolkc107
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      #12
      Originally posted by DramaShow
      so you think he has the potential to go down as one of the best ever, but he has no chance against mikey garcia and then you reel off a whole list of fighters who you think have a serious chance of beating him? Including terry flanagan lol. You should have just cut the bull**** and said you think hes a hypejob.
      I think he IS a hype job, but it is also true that perhaps some (or all) of that hype may turn out to be true.

      I didn't say anyone but Mikey definitely beats him.

      But everyone I named will test him better than anyone he has fought so far, tonight's fight notwithstanding.

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      • A.K
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        #13
        Loma embarrassed Russell jr and Walters he would whipe the floor with Easter and berchelt, mikey would be a tough fight for him tho.

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        • koolkc107
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          #14
          Originally posted by A.K
          Loma embarrassed Russell jr and Walters he would whipe the floor with Easter and berchelt, mikey would be a tough fight for him tho.
          I think Easter and Berchelt catch up to him and hurt him.

          It's easy to throw those dazzling combos when nothing is coming back.

          Both men will counter very well, make it interesting at the very least.

          What I am saying is that after tonight, it is time for less of the Marriagas and Sosas of the world and time for real top tier opponents.

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          • A.K
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            #15
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            I think Easter and Berchelt catch up to him and hurt him.

            It's easy to throw those dazzling combos when nothing is coming back.

            Both men will counter very well, make it interesting at the very least.

            What I am saying is that after tonight, it is time for less of the Marriagas and Sosas of the world and time for real top tier opponents.
            Walters and Russ jr are levels above at countering than Easter and berchelt it would be a walk in the park for Loma they aint near his level. Loma Pretty much has his way with anyone all the way up to mikey cause mikey is much bigger than him.

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            • Stephankotyk
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              #16
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              I think Easter and Berchelt catch up to him and hurt him.

              It's easy to throw those dazzling combos when nothing is coming back.

              Both men will counter very well, make it interesting at the very least.

              What I am saying is that after tonight, it is time for less of the Marriagas and Sosas of the world and time for real top tier opponents.
              Easter is big, and that is all he has over Loma. Size advantage.
              Berchelt will be good fight but I really think that it will end up same as Walters. Everyone will call him bum, rusty etc.
              Sad how you hiding your hate behind some farfetched facts.

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              • koolkc107
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                #17
                Originally posted by A.K
                Walters and Russ jr are levels above at countering than Easter and berchelt it would be a walk in the park for Loma they aint near his level. Loma Pretty much has his way with anyone all the way up to mikey cause mikey is much bigger than him.
                Disagree.

                I think Garry Russell is another hype job.

                And the Walters that Loma faced would have been KTFO by both guys and sooner.

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                • koolkc107
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Stephankotyk
                  Easter is big, and that is all he has over Loma. Size advantage.
                  Berchelt will be good fight but I really think that it will end up same as Walters. Everyone will call him bum, rusty etc.
                  Sad how you hiding your hate behind some farfetched facts.
                  Don't hate Loma.

                  I just don't think you can crown a guy that is still untested at the highest levels.

                  When he beats some of the guys I named, I'd be glad to revisit this and eat my words.

                  Got a feeling I won't have to tho...

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                  • Bad_Guy
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                    #19
                    Mikey Garcia is a B/B+ level fighter. Loma is an A+ level fighter, who has time to make his case for the HoF. Mikey Garcia has NO chance against Loma (not now, not ever), and this will be demonstrated when they fight if it's not obvious already.

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                    • koolkc107
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by heatman
                      He has to leave Top Rank - its as simple as that. Same for Crawford.

                      Otherwise he'll keep fighting Marriaga's while complaining that one top guy after another is ducking him or overpricing themselves.

                      Yep. Pretty much.

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