Realistically only welterweights that can beat Floyd are Leonard/Hearns/Robinson.

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  • Tom Cruise
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    #41
    Henry Armstrong would beat Floyd imo.

    Perfect style to fight him.

    And there isnt any size difference either. Maybe Floyd a touch bigger

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    • Tom Cruise
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      #42
      There are a few other WWs i would pick to beat him as Floyd was undersized at the weight.

      Its an impressively short list though considering it was his 4th division

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        #43
        Originally posted by Sir_Didymus
        I'll agree with anyone who makes the claim Floyd Mayweather is the best defensive fighter ever but is he the best ever? Not even close.

        He's very good against flat footed raging bulls. Easy to counter. Easy to knock out also by countering with a shot they're too slow to see coming or too full of adrenaline to even worry about. Example of knockout...Hatton. Example of slipping and ccountering...Canelo.How many slick, speedy, rangy and technical boxers has he beat? You won't find many if any at all.

        He clearly picked his opponents very carefully when two fighters that in my opinion would have beaten him and beaten him on points were avoided.

        Firstly...Paul Williams. Extremely talented, rangy, tall, slick boxer who had the style to beat him. Once he beat Margarito he was on the welterweight map. Everyone wanted to see that fight. From fans to boxers like Tyson, Hopkins, Roy Jones etc. They all wanted that fight.

        Turns out Mayweather was aiming for bigger things with the Oscar Dela Hoya fight who was declining and on the way out. So Mayweather saw the big bucks, the shiny lights and the opportunity to become master and commander of his own career and took it. Kudos to him.

        In the meantime Paul Williams suffers his first loss, which the Mayweather camp unfairly used to downplay any chance Williams had, then quickly avenged the loss. Went on to have a decent career. Few losses. Still was a great boxer until his unfortunate accident. So all hopes of that fight went away quick.

        Secondly...Amir Khan. Yes, that chinny stick insect. Topped Mayweathers own poll of who he should fight next. Was Mayweathers mandatory for a while. Then Mayweather only goes ahead and picks the fighter that lost to Amir Khan.

        You can laugh all you want but the fact is Khan has consistently won the majority of the rounds he has boxed in throughout his career. Clearly had the speed and reach advantage. Clearly should have been given an opportunity after the Maidana fight. More importantly Khan had a style Mayweather has never encountered before (the tall, speedy and rangy type boxer like Paul Williams). So if Mayweather was really that good he would have proved his skill against that type of boxer whilst filling his pocket with "easy work" chump change.

        Therefore I'll conclude that Mayweather is the best defensive fighter I've seen BUT he carefully selected his opponents once he had the power to do so and did not fully test himself with styles that would clearly test his own style of boxing. In other words he conned and laughed his way to the bank after the Oscar fight. Let's not forget...he's got Victor Ortiz on his resume...LOL!! (Another fighter who lost his hot streak to Amir Khan when he was in the amateurs).

        This fight with Connor McGregor...just another example of that. Should be entertaining enough to stream though.

        Please don't forget styles make the difference not their resume.
        Almost stopped at Paul Williams instead of fighting DLH. NOPE kept reading.

        Only to be blindsided by a good ole AMIR KHAN mention.


        Well you got me to read half of your post. Props to you.

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        • MurkaMan
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          #44
          Originally posted by JasonBoxing
          People bash Floyd all the time but realistically the only 3 welterweights that can beat him at 147 for sure are Leonard Hearns and Robinson.

          Ain't nobody else beating Floyd.
          Floyd would whitewash them as well. Them being tall is not good enough for me. Floyd is the pureboxer that SRL wish he could be. SRL is an outdated version of Mayweather. Imagine him trying to outbox Floyd. Floyd would make him pay for not being technically sound. And I dont see SRL being the taller, rangier fighter, where Floyd is too small to get in. I see Floyd being the smaller quicker guy, moving at a completely different reaction time.

          That fight to me, is like Floyd vs Genero, or Canelo. And hearns is taller than SRL, but all I see is targets. SRR is TRASH, he fought in an era where boxing was a trade. Imagine Floyd beating up on a bunch of garbage truck drivers, or construction workers. Same thing SRR did. I dont see any ww in history beating Mayweather. GGG, and Hagler beat him at 154 on size and force, which is a technicality. No one beats Floyd

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          • GhostofDempsey
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            #45
            Prime WW he loses to:

            Robinson
            Armstrong
            Leonard
            Duran
            Hearns
            Benitez
            De La Hoya
            Pac
            Mosley
            Paul Williams
            Emile Griffith
            Jose Napoles
            Luis Rodriquez
            Pernell Whitaker
            Carmen Basilio
            Barney Ross
            Kid Gavilan
            Mickey Walker
            Billy Graham

            Possibly Tito Trinidad.

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            • DJ Enerate
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              #46
              He gets stopped by Hearns, Leonard and Montreal Duran. Prime Kid Gavilan, Jose Napoles and Benitez beat him comfortably. Gavilan would bolo the **** out of Floyd.

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              • RussB23
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                #47
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                Prime Floyd had a run for is money against a passed his prime Oscar. The dude never fought a prime A-level fighter. All were passed their primes, green and drained (Canelo) and the rest a B-level.
                How was canelo drained? If he was drained against floyd then he was drained against smith too. If they fought at 154 it would have made zero difference, canelo just got schooled.

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                • djtmal
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                  #48
                  I think at ww terry norris tears him up. Even the version who beat hatton

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                  • -Johannes-
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                    #49
                    Prime for prime floyd isn't even a welterweight.

                    Hearns beats every welterweight ever in my opinion.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MurkaMan
                      Floyd would whitewash them as well. Them being tall is not good enough for me. Floyd is the pureboxer that SRL wish he could be. SRL is an outdated version of Mayweather. Imagine him trying to outbox Floyd. Floyd would make him pay for not being technically sound. And I dont see SRL being the taller, rangier fighter, where Floyd is too small to get in. I see Floyd being the smaller quicker guy, moving at a completely different reaction time.

                      That fight to me, is like Floyd vs Genero, or Canelo. And hearns is taller than SRL, but all I see is targets. SRR is TRASH, he fought in an era where boxing was a trade. Imagine Floyd beating up on a bunch of garbage truck drivers, or construction workers. Same thing SRR did. I dont see any ww in history beating Mayweather. GGG, and Hagler beat him at 154 on size and force, which is a technicality. No one beats Floyd
                      Floyd would whitewash them based on beating who? Maidana? Gtfoh

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