What's with the notion that we should root for Floyd just because he's a boxer?

[Chollo Vista]

Because we will never actually know, now will we.

Of course you don't know. We'll never know because it never happened

No need to bring up Breidis Prescott when guys like Pac got KOd by sinsirgut and some other bum. Not even counting Marquez.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Again, prove to me he "couldn't"

If you don't "think" he could, great. But don't announce it as fact because of Breides Prescott... Well, because that's idiot logic and shows YDKSAB

That's like saying GGG will KO Jacobs with a jab because Sergio Mora, doe

Khan or Marquez could've gone through that list of fighters undefeated.. Especially when you start talking about catchweights.

Of course you don't know. We'll never know because it never happened

No need to bring up Breidis Prescott when guys like Pac got KOd by sinsirgut and some other bum. Not even counting Marquez.

These triangle theories.

I need to learn more.

[Chollo Vista]

yet floyd managed to do it. so if floyd was the only welterweight in the world that makes it through that stretch undefeated, how can we then simultaneously try to act like everyone he faced was over the hill, shot, etc? that is what wouldn't make sense

Name one WW that fought that same group of fighters? You can't, so how do you know what any other WW would actually do? You don't.

The quicker you understand the difference between fact and what you "think", the quicker we can move on.

if being unified champion in multiple weight classes at the same time was so easy, everybody would do it.

Floyd was never "undisputed" in any weight class though.

He beat 3 JMW's while fighting at the full JMW limit 2x

he beat de la hoya and cotto at the full 154 pound limit, while they were 154 pound champions, with floyd not cutting weight at all and still weighing in several pounds under the limit.

It's not about "who", but "when". Do you know the difference?

he individually unified three 147 pound titles one by one, beating ortiz, maidana and pacquiao when they were all reigning champions.

1. He fought Ortiz for the WBC, no other belts were on the line. Do you know what unification means?

2. He beat Maidana for the WBC and WBA in a fight he arguably, lost, but cool. Floyd won.

3. He beat Pac for 3 belts, but he was never "undisputed". Do you know the difference?

who are these other welterweights that would have won all of these fights without taking a loss? they don't exist

Marquez and Khan. Prove to me they couldn't.

[Chollo Vista]

These triangle theories.

I need to learn more.

Is that why your first interjection into the convo was about Breidis Prescott?

[Sweet Pea 50]

Is that why your first interjection into the convo was about Breidis Prescott?

Need I say more about it?

[Chollo Vista]

Need I say more about it?

Go ahead tell us why your triangle theory works

[Sweet Pea 50]

Go ahead tell us why your triangle theory works

Mayweather.

Do I win something?

[Chollo Vista]

Mayweather.

Do I win something?

Triangle theories work because Mayweather? Damn you're a fcuking idiot

Yeah you win something alright. Goof ball of the week

[Sweet Pea 50]

Triangle theories work because Mayweather? Damn you're a fcuking idiot

[Chollo Vista]

yet floyd managed to do it. so if floyd was the only welterweight in the world that makes it through that stretch undefeated, how can we then simultaneously try to act like everyone he faced was over the hill, shot, etc? that is what wouldn't make sense.

if being unified champion in multiple weight classes at the same time was so easy, everybody would do it.

he beat de la hoya and cotto at the full 154 pound limit, while they were 154 pound champions, with floyd not cutting weight at all and still weighing in several pounds under the limit.

he individually unified three 147 pound titles one by one, beating ortiz, maidana and pacquiao when they were all reigning champions.

who are these other welterweights that would have won all of these fights without taking a loss? they don't exist.

Always remember, it's not "who", but "when"


In 2008, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Joshua Clottey
Manny Pacquiao
Carlos Quintana
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Andre Berto
Isaac Hlatshwayo

In 2007, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal



Tell me why instead of fighting Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Floyd fought Ricky Hatton and retired right after?

When presented with Cotto, why did Floyd say "I won't let the sport of boxing retire me, I'll retire before that happens"?

Why did Floyd say this only to continue to fight for another 10 years to this day?