Comments Thread For: Roach on Pacquiao: We Don't Want a Fight a Guy Like Crawford

[aboutfkntime]

A catch weight fight with Canelo and a fight with Marquez who was cheated on the scales are not equivalent to a Barerra/Morales. So Floyd's best win was a 36 year old Manny Pacquiao. In other words when you discredit Pacquiao, you are taking away from Floyd.

yes, they are..... they absolutely are, no question

1) stop being silly..... the catchweight in the Marquez/Mayweather fight was designed to benefit Marquez..... not Mayweather

you are just making excuses

2) Pacquiao also fought Marquez at welter, and he got KTFO

that is a weak excuse

3) the Canelo catchweight had no bearing whatsoever on that fight, AND YOU KNOW IT..... that is just another weak excuse and desperate attempt to discredit Mayweather

4) Canelo's legacy is still growing, if he beats Golovkin then you pacfans will stop mentioning him

5) he beat Pacquiao..... /story..... and YES, that counts

6) Mayweather did not suffer 7 defeats, including 3ko's

Pac is great..... Mayweather is greater..... /story

[aboutfkntime]

pac had fought one fight at 130 at that time which was a loss and raheem fought at 135. you expect manny to move up another division coming off a loss? hmm yea revising history once again. didn't even have a win at 130 and is ducking someone at 135. also a rematch with morales was huge money and a fight with raheem was nothing but the boxing is a business people telling manny to make the dumb move like always.

floyd fought zab coming off a loss to a bum for no reason. that fight wasnt big. then he fought bum baldomir which wasnt a big fight either. delay delay delay tactics! marg would have given him mroe money and a mexican audience....avoid avoid avoid he wont be #1 forever and he eventually lost. the coast is clear return to boxing

FACT: if Mayweather had not fought Baldomir, you would be calling that a duck

YOU know it, and I know it

IF the superstar Mayweather fought Baldomir, because he beat Judah, despite the fact that "it was not a big fight"..... then there is no reason why the non-superstar Pacquiao could not fight Raheem, considering he just beat Morales

let's agree to disagree

not a big deal, but that fight should have happened..... and like I pointed out, that was just an indication of things to come..... because after Marquez II, Pac started tip-toeing through the tulips

[ironmt]

That's not true!

Canelo undefeated.

Cotto, winning streak.

Ortiz, winning streak.

Mosley had knocked out Margarito in his last fight and Mayorga in the fight before. Mosely was so hot Roach said he was TOO GOOD for Manny lol. I thought the Cotto loss was a fix and Shane won.

JMM, I don't count Manny as losses because he didn't lose even on Filipino scorecards (ringside).

Hatton, undefeated.

Judah, didn't really take damage from Baldi. Total fluke. I'll give it to you though but we both know its bs.

Gatti, winning streak.

Castillo, winning streak.

Hernandez, winning streak.

Manfredy, winning streak.

Hernandez, winning streak.

Corrales, undefeated.

But It was true and I provided you with the evidence. Review facts before you respond, kid.

[ironmt]

yes, they are..... they absolutely are, no question

1) stop being silly..... the catchweight in the Marquez/Mayweather fight was designed to benefit Marquez..... not Mayweather

you are just making excuses

2) Pacquiao also fought Marquez at welter, and he got KTFO

that is a weak excuse

3) the Canelo catchweight had no bearing whatsoever on that fight, AND YOU KNOW IT..... that is just another weak excuse and desperate attempt to discredit Mayweather

4) Canelo's legacy is still growing, if he beats Golovkin then you pacfans will stop mentioning him

5) he beat Pacquiao..... /story..... and YES, that counts

6) Mayweather did not suffer 7 defeats, including 3ko's

Pac is great..... Mayweather is greater..... /story

How did It benefit Marquez when Floyd didn't abide by the contract he signed?

You mean the same way you have discredited Pacquiao for beating Cotto?

Why Is It that Floyd's next fight Is at 154 yet he had to drain Canelo Instead of fighting him at 154?

Like I said a drained Canelo and a Marquez who was cheated on the scales are not equivalent to Barrera and Morales. I am sure the majority on this forum would agree.

Yes I agree, both fighters are great

[aboutfkntime]

How did It benefit Marquez when Floyd didn't abide by the contract he signed?

You mean the same way you have discredited Pacquiao for beating Cotto?

Why Is It that Floyd's next fight Is at 154 yet he had to drain Canelo Instead of fighting him at 154?

Like I said a drained Canelo and a Marquez who was cheated on the scales are not equivalent to Barrera and Morales. I am sure the majority on this forum would agree.

Yes I agree, both fighters are great

you are just making weak excuses

FACT: a catchweight is to benefit the smaller guy

Floyd was a welter, how would fighting at catchweight possibly benefit him?..... the catchweight was to benefit Marquez..... so why are you mentioning it?..... oh right, you mentioned it because catchweight=bad simply rolled nicely off your tongue, and seemed like a plausible excuse

also, "Floyd didn't abide by the contract he signed?"..... is incorrect

they renegotiated the contract two weeks prior, netting Marquez an additional 600k..... nobody missed weight..... nobody breached contract..... that is just another convenient excuse that folks have become accustomed to mentioning..... that fight happened per (amended) contract, at 146

DUDE, Pac fought JMM at the same weight and got KTFO

ridiculous

anyway you spin it..... Mayweather > Pacquiao

[ironmt]

you are just making weak excuses

FACT: a catchweight is to benefit the smaller guy

Floyd was a welter, how would fighting at catchweight possibly benefit him?..... the catchweight was to benefit Marquez..... so why are you mentioning it?..... oh right, you mentioned it because catchweight=bad simply rolled nicely off your tongue, and seemed like a plausible excuse

also, "Floyd didn't abide by the contract he signed?"..... is incorrect

they renegotiated the contract two weeks prior, netting Marquez an additional 600k..... nobody missed weight..... nobody breached contract..... that is just another convenient excuse that folks have become accustomed to mentioning..... that fight happened per (amended) contract, at 146

DUDE, Pac fought JMM at the same weight and got KTFO

ridiculous

anyway you spin it..... Mayweather > Pacquiao

No need to spin anything. Why Is Floyd's next fight at 154 when he couldn't fight Canelo at 154?

I will take Pacquiao's resume any day over Floyd's. So this means nothing to me......... Mayweather > Pacquiao.

[McNulty]

But It was true and I provided you with the evidence. Review facts before you respond, kid.

Its not true because those names don't COUNT. The names that COUNT were UNDEFEATED or on a WINNING STREAK. You're bring up Joe Shiht The Ragman and I'm bringing up wold class fighters that were hot or undefeated. You don't see the difference because you're retahded.

Truth is Pacquiao never faced a good undefeated fighter and won nor did he face anybody that wasn't on a very recent losing streak.

What's really happening here is you got duped; hook, line, and sinker. Arum fooled your dum a$$ like a two-bit bread thief.

[ironmt]

Its not true because those names don't COUNT. The names that COUNT were UNDEFEATED or on a WINNING STREAK. You're bring up Joe **** The Ragman and I'm bringing up wold class fighters that were hot or undefeated. You don't see the difference because you're retahded.

Truth is Pacquiao never faced a good undefeated fighter and won nor did he face anybody that wasn't on a very recent losing streak.

What's really happening here is you got duped; hook, line, and sinker. Arum fooled your dum a$$ like a two-bit bread thief.

LMFAO, you said the following,

Manny never fought anybody undefeated in his prime besides JMM and we saw what happened there. Everyone else was recently cracked or had *'s next to their names.

I presented to you facts. The facts are that out of 49 fights 19 of Floyd's opponents were coming off of a loss In their previous fight or was one fight out from a loss and you said..........."That's not true!"

I provided you the following list ...........


1. Sanders
2. Cooper
3. Rodriduez
4. Gleport
5. Duran
6. Chavez
7. Leija
8. Garcia
9. Nunez
10. Arroyo
11. Girard
12. Melo
13. Cuello
14. Ramon Rios
15. Juuko
16. Corley
17. Judah
18. Mitchell
19. Augustus

And your response Is.............."Its not true because those names don't COUNT."

LMFAO, why don't those names count on Floyd's resume yet they count on Pacquiao's?

[aboutfkntime]

No need to spin anything. Why Is Floyd's next fight at 154 when he couldn't fight Canelo at 154?

I will take Pacquiao's resume any day over Floyd's. So this means nothing to me......... Mayweather > Pacquiao.

he could have fought Canelo at 154, nobody said otherwise

he had already fought at 154, and the weight would have made no difference whatsoever

they offered Mayweather an advantage, and he took it

which was dumb

he diminished his own achievement

just like Pac did for YEARS with manny-weight

dragging the little guys up and pulling the big guys down

[McNulty]

LMFAO, you said the following,

Manny never fought anybody undefeated in his prime besides JMM and we saw what happened there. Everyone else was recently cracked or had *'s next to their names.

I presented to you facts. The facts are that out of 49 fights 19 of Floyd's opponents were coming off of a loss In their previous fight or was one fight out from a loss and you said..........."That's not true!"

I provided you the following list ...........


1. Sanders
2. Cooper
3. Rodriduez
4. Gleport
5. Duran
6. Chavez
7. Leija
8. Garcia
9. Nunez
10. Arroyo
11. Girard
12. Melo
13. Cuello
14. Ramon Rios
15. Juuko
16. Corley
17. Judah
18. Mitchell
19. Augustus

And your response Is.............."Its not true because those names don't COUNT."

LMFAO, why don't those names count on Floyd's resume yet they count on Pacquiao's?

Because I didn't point out the bums on Pacquiao's record, but the marquee names you fcuking moron. You're a funny lil fella aintcha?! lol