Comments Thread For: Roach on Pacquiao: We Don't Want a Fight a Guy Like Crawford

[ironmt]

don't duck me b1tch

I see you slinking around, spreading your Pac-bullshht

I challenge you to debate the 3 topics that you are currently spinning/lying

* cherry-picking
* weight manipulation
* steroid abuse

let's go

don't duck me kid

chat ****, get ******

Listen you wanna be Floyd's accountant c*ck gobbler, you claimed that what I said In my other posts were Inaccurate, feel free to prove those Inaccuracies.

[ironmt]

You claimed the following statements were Inaccurate, feel free to prove It. You can scramble for as many links as you like, but nothing I claimed below Is Inaccurate.

Honestly, I think this guy Is more likely to have used PEDS.

1. Was used by his father as a human shield as a baby when threatened at gun point.

2. Father served 5 years for drug trafficking.

3. Mother was a crack addict.

4. Brutally Beat His Wife In Front Of Their Children!

5. Injects his hands with Xylocaine

6. Needed an Iv for the first time In 48 professional fights when he had to get In the ring with Pacquiao.

7. Needed 5 hrs to give a urine sample.

8. Agreed to an 18 day cutoff for drug testing with previous opponents, but wouldn't agree to a 14 day cutoff for drug testing for Pacquiao, with testing Immediately following the fight.

9. Was willing to pay Pacquiao to end the defamation suit In order to keep his records sealed?

10. Was willing to pay Pacquiao $114,000 to avoid questioning from Pacquiao's attorney's?


Just the following comment alone washes anything you have to say on the matter.

A statement obtained by The Times and released by Mayweather Jr., his father and uncle/trainer Roger Mayweather, said the men “wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs.

“Nor are they aware of any evidence Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”


The Mayweathers couldn't prove It, some shmuck like you certainly Isn't going to prove It.

[aboutfkntime]

Listen you wanna be Floyd's accountant c*ck gobbler, you claimed that what I said In my other posts were Inaccurate, feel free to prove those Inaccuracies.

that was real dumb, I warned you that this has been done to death


but first..... how ****** did you feel after making a list of previous Mayweather opponents who Floyd fought when they were coming off a loss..... only to be confronted by a list of Pacquiao opponents who were MUCH worse?

some of those guys were flat-out BUMS..... and like I said, the guys on your list were mostly at the start of Mayweathers career..... but the guys on my list were Pacquiao's best wins

I warned you what would happen if you attempted to bull**** everyone that Pacquiao has a better opponent selection/resume..... and the exact same thing will happen regarding the other two subjects that you seem to be keen on debating..... Manny never fought the best in his division, not since 130.....

* cherry-picking - DONE, I told you that was a waste of time
* weight-manipulation
* steroid abuse

firstly, your bullshht.....

You claimed the following statements were Inaccurate, feel free to prove It. You can scramble for as many links as you like, but nothing I claimed below Is Inaccurate.

Honestly, I think this guy Is more likely to have used PEDS.

1. Was used by his father as a human shield as a baby when threatened at gun point.

2. Father served 5 years for drug trafficking.

3. Mother was a crack addict.

4. Brutally Beat His Wife In Front Of Their Children!

5. Injects his hands with Xylocaine

6. Needed an Iv for the first time In 48 professional fights when he had to get In the ring with Pacquiao.

7. Needed 5 hrs to give a urine sample.

8. Agreed to an 18 day cutoff for drug testing with previous opponents, but wouldn't agree to a 14 day cutoff for drug testing for Pacquiao, with testing Immediately following the fight.

9. Was willing to pay Pacquiao to end the defamation suit In order to keep his records sealed?

10. Was willing to pay Pacquiao $114,000 to avoid questioning from Pacquiao's attorney's?


Just the following comment alone washes anything you have to say on the matter.

A statement obtained by The Times and released by Mayweather Jr., his father and uncle/trainer Roger Mayweather, said the men “wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs.

“Nor are they aware of any evidence Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”


The Mayweathers couldn't prove It, some shmuck like you certainly Isn't going to prove It.

you silly crybaby.....

1/2/3/4..... have NOTHING to do with Mayweather/steroids

you whiney crybaby

5. bullshht, link please.....

6. there is a first time for everything, that proves nothing..... NSAC investigated, and USADA investigated..... you are LITERALLY crying about nothing

7. so fkn what? the testers wait, and they watch you like a hawk..... it is LITERALLY impossible to mask something in 5 hours..... you silly crybaby

8. you absolute liar..... LINK..... and btw dumbass, I told you that his has been done to death..... Mosley had FULL testing, the fact that USADA did not test 18 days prior means nothing, because they COULD have, which is why random blood tests are so effective..... which is why Pacquiao ducked the drug testing in 2010

9. liar !!..... LINK

10. liar !!..... LINK


6 of those bullet-points were BULL****, and the other 4 require links/proof


waiting.....


I can't wait to address your reply, so we can move on to the 3rd topic, weight manipulation..... oh, and don't forget to add those links to backup your bull****, willya

[aboutfkntime]

Listen you wanna be Floyd's accountant c*ck gobbler, you claimed that what I said In my other posts were Inaccurate, feel free to prove those Inaccuracies.

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?





so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

[aboutfkntime]

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?





so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

jesus H christ

the fact that you pacstains choose to ignore the MOUNTAIN of evidence above..... preferring to focus on a one-time IV that was approved/conducted by USADA..... is the reason why most boxing fans hope that you clowns walk out in traffic

[ironmt]

that was real dumb, I warned you that this has been done to death


but first..... how ****** did you feel after making a list of previous Mayweather opponents who Floyd fought when they were coming off a loss..... only to be confronted by a list of Pacquiao opponents who were MUCH worse?

some of those guys were flat-out BUMS..... and like I said, the guys on your list were mostly at the start of Mayweathers career..... but the guys on my list were Pacquiao's best wins

I warned you what would happen if you attempted to bull**** everyone that Pacquiao has a better opponent selection/resume..... and the exact same thing will happen regarding the other two subjects that you seem to be keen on debating..... Manny never fought the best in his division, not since 130.....

* cherry-picking - DONE, I told you that was a waste of time
* weight-manipulation
* steroid abuse

firstly, your bullshht.....





you silly crybaby cvnt.....

1/2/3/4..... have NOTHING to do with Mayweather/steroids

you whiney crybaby cvnt

5. bullshht, link please.....

6. there is a first time for everything, that proves nothing..... NSAC investigated, and USADA investigated..... you are LITERALLY crying about nothing

7. so fkn what? the testers wait, and they watch you like a hawk..... it is LITERALLY impossible to mask something in 5 hours..... you silly crybaby clown

8. you absolute liar..... LINK..... and btw dumbass, I told you that his has been done to death..... Mosley had FULL testing, the fact that USADA did not test 18 days prior means nothing, because they COULD have, which is why random blood tests are so effective..... which is why Pacquiao ducked the drug testing in 2010

9. liar !!..... LINK

10. liar !!..... LINK


6 of those bullet-points were BULL****, and the other 4 require links/proof


waiting.....


I can't wait to address your reply, so we can move on to the 3rd topic, weight manipulation..... oh, and don't forget to add those links to backup your bull****, willya

I made the statements and you claimed they were Inaccurate , prove me wrong mother****er.

You claimed you had a bunch of links, my statements can be verified with a little effort. Look them up.

Fact....... No one on Floyd's resume tops Barrera and Morales. He was the first man ever to stop Barrera who was on a terrific run of wins himself. He was the first man to knock out Erik Morales.

Funny that you are trying to be some tough guy on the Internet. You want to start with name calling over a debate which In reality boils down to personal opinion on a lot of Issues other than PEDS, bring It on you you dirty little c*nt.

[aboutfkntime]

You claimed the following statements were Inaccurate, feel free to prove It. You can scramble for as many links as you like, but nothing I claimed below Is Inaccurate.

Honestly, I think this guy Is more likely to have used PEDS.

1. Was used by his father as a human shield as a baby when threatened at gun point.

2. Father served 5 years for drug trafficking.

3. Mother was a crack addict.

4. Brutally Beat His Wife In Front Of Their Children!

5. Injects his hands with Xylocaine

6. Needed an Iv for the first time In 48 professional fights when he had to get In the ring with Pacquiao.

7. Needed 5 hrs to give a urine sample.

8. Agreed to an 18 day cutoff for drug testing with previous opponents, but wouldn't agree to a 14 day cutoff for drug testing for Pacquiao, with testing Immediately following the fight.

9. Was willing to pay Pacquiao to end the defamation suit In order to keep his records sealed?

10. Was willing to pay Pacquiao $114,000 to avoid questioning from Pacquiao's attorney's?


Just the following comment alone washes anything you have to say on the matter.

A statement obtained by The Times and released by Mayweather Jr., his father and uncle/trainer Roger Mayweather, said the men “wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs.

“Nor are they aware of any evidence Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”


The Mayweathers couldn't prove It, some shmuck like you certainly Isn't going to prove It.

1, 2, 3, 4..... were silly, and had nothing to do with Floyd/PED's

no reply required, grow up !!

6, 7..... were irrelevant, easily explained, and prove nothing

5, 8, 9, 10..... were rubbish, that you need to prove with a link

waiting.....




oh, and don't forget to reply to this.....

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?





so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

..... don't pretend like you never saw it




you need to smarten up.....

a pacfan should NEVER attempt to criticize Mayweather for.....

* opponent selection
* weight manipulation
* steroid abuse

..... because Pacquiao is MUCH worse !!

I would suggest that you criticize him for dressing like a f@g, and for smacking his b1tches around

[redmoney]

No lol, The Pac-man that fought Erik Morales, Barerra, Hatton, De la Hoya would have broken Crawford easily. Manny from 08-10 would have ****ing slept Crawford. If a fighter named Gamboa moves up from featherweight to 140 and still gave him all sorts of problems. If Gamboa and Crawford were the same size, it would be a much different story. How could he beat Manny? Forgot Manny, Crawford is a good fighter but he is terribly overrated.

De la Hoya at 140 smokes Crawford
Mosley at 140 smokes him, Mosley at 135 would end his career (Mosley one of the greatest lightweights in history)
Julio Caesar Chavez smokes him at 140
Aaron Pryor smokes him at 140.

Crawford is a good fighter and the best at 140, but please don't act like he would stack up historically with the old Manny or any other great fighter

Apologize for now responding didn't see this reply. Manny is Manny and remember during that time he wasn't as polished and using his right hand as oftened I feel it would've made no difference. Dela hoya good match not just going say washes TC. Mosley was overpowering guys back then boxing skill was mediocre I remember my pops use to say that back then but I really saw when he fought Forrest. Mosley did poorly against good boxers and lost to them all that's why they never responded to Floyd when he called them out at 135. TC beats Mosley do him like he did Diaz

[Hype job]

how come you are fixated on 1 catchweight fight of Mayweather ?

and completely ignore the 144 campaign of Pacquiao ?

Mayweather had two weight-affected fights

Pacquiao had about a dozen

why do you guys do that..... ?

Boy.

You are way too emotionally invested in Mayweather, he doesn't know or care about you.

Stop trying to live through him, boy.