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pac had fought one fight at 130 at that time which was a loss and raheem fought at 135. you expect manny to move up another division coming off a loss? hmm yea revising history once again. didn't even have a win at 130 and is ducking someone at 135. also a rematch with morales was huge money and a fight with raheem was nothing but the boxing is a business people telling manny to make the dumb move like always.
floyd fought zab coming off a loss to a bum for no reason. that fight wasnt big. then he fought bum baldomir which wasnt a big fight either. delay delay delay tactics! marg would have given him mroe money and a mexican audience....avoid avoid avoid he wont be #1 forever and he eventually lost. the coast is clear return to boxingLast edited by daggum; 07-12-2017, 04:06 AM.Comment
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Daggum how come you don't have Horn beating Manny? When Manny landed fewer punches than Floyd you said Manny won because he landed the harder power shots. Well Horn did that in the manny fight yet you had Manny winning.
Can you explain this difference because it doesn't make sense?Comment
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why is pac obligated to move up and fight raheem? is spence obligated to move up and fight ggg becaus brook lost to him? makes no sense. pac and raheem were not in the same division. morales tried to move up and it didnt work out. i dont see how that means pac has to now move up. yes he should be considered but manny had 1 fight at 130 and it was a loss. why not go after the big money morales and marquez rematches like he did? ducking people not even in your division....floyd fans smh. then when floyd ducks #1 guys for the most money in his own division they come up with ridiculous excuses.ummm..... you just asked that, and I just answered it
you are aware that Morales had just LOST to Raheem right ?
I have no problem with Pac rematching Morales, to avenge his loss..... but that will not somehow make Raheem suddenly disappear..... will it?
no wait, it did
pretty sure you got my point.....
Morales had just beaten Pacquiao before losing to Raheem
so there is no logic whatsoever in suggesting that Raheem is somehow too far beneath Pacquiao to warrant consideration
that is just an excuse, of course he should have fought him
If Mayweather had not fought Baldomir you would be saying the exact same thing about him that I am saying about RaheemComment
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you talking compubox again? thats not accurate so bad starting point. manny didnt land fewer punches than floyd so i dont know where you got that from. maybe overall floyd slightly outlanded manny(counting all grazes and touches) but in 7 rounds manny landed more or as many as floyd and they were higher quality punches. recipe for a win. manny outlanded horn in at least 8 rounds and i thought he had the higher quality punches as well so i have no clue what you are talking about saying horn landed the harder shots. in some roudns sure but in most rounds no. just like floyd landed teh cleaner shots in some roudns but in 7 rounds? noLast edited by daggum; 07-12-2017, 04:22 AM.Comment
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Barrera wasn't prime. He had retired for almost 2 years after junior jones beat him twice. Morales was humiliated and thoroughly beaten by Raheem before Manny beat him.
You can judge those wins however you wish, but you can't change the facts.
What you like to do is denigrate Floyd's wins by pointing out negatives from his opponents past. Don't get upset when another poster does same to a fighter you like.Comment
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You can try and spin it any way you wish. Maybe you were trolling and just don't want to admit Floyd really won.
There is no way you could have Manny beating Floyd and then not have Horn beating Manny. Sorry dude but you introduced this ******ed scoring system using doctored videos made by disgruntled Manny fans.
Don't get upset when the same bullshit is used by someone else to score the horn/Manny fight.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-12-2017, 04:42 AM.Comment
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yeah the ******ed who lands the better punhes should win system. i should have used the compubox guess who is landing punches system? or the which guy do i like better system that way i can twist the rules into how i want them system?
how can you have manny beating floyd and horn? because he landed the better punhes in both fights omg the spin is out of control! we have video of him doing this too but you think its doctored??? i dont see how breakign down the rounds in depth=doctoring. is it perfect no but you can see who is landing the clean hard punches this way. you can ignore the coutner if you want but its still easy to follow. where were the floyd clean punches in most of the rounds? simply were not there. pacs were smashing floyds head backwards. at best floyd was touching pac with no force and barely moving his head at all and in a roudn with very close punches landed...who do you really think deserves to win that?
the same bullsh-it wasnt used though. the "doctored" videos aka more evidence(since when did having more information become a bad thing) show manny winning both fights so your point isnt even correct. the wbo judges said horn won but i cant see how. rounds 2 and 4 to horn make no sense at all. manny crushed him those rounds so thats a 7-5 win for pac right there. all 5 gave horn the 12th? thats dubious but yet they all did so which calls into quetsion their judging just like ward-kovlaev roudn 10 was dominant kov roudn that they "messed up on"
why do the judges not know what is happening in most fights? i really dont know. you would think they would air on the side of caution and give it to the guy landing the clear shots but most of the time they dont do that and then fanboys come along later and fill in why their fighter won with confirmation bias and silly reasons while ignoring the actual substance of boxing which is who landed the better punches. you can pretend horn did but he didn't. you can pretend floyd did but he didnt. you can pretend ward did but he didnt. i know its "subjective" but this wasnt pac-marquez subjective where both guys landed great shots. this was a clear distinction in quality of shots in those fights and the judges did not see it or did not want to see it.Comment
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