Comments Thread For: Roach on Pacquiao: We Don't Want a Fight a Guy Like Crawford

[UFC_Boxing]

The Pacquiao that fought Cotto would have destroyed Crawford. Crawford was getting caught and wobbled with punches from the much smaller Gamboa. No way he survives 12 rounds with a prime Pacquiao.

another hater bringing the only 2 seconds of Crawford career where he seemed hurt to try to discredit him. You guys got such tiny stuff to complain about. Lets stop hatin and admit TC is an ATG, he is the best 135-140 pounder to ever breathe

[ironmt]

another hater bringing the only 2 seconds of Crawford career where he seemed hurt to try to discredit him. You guys got such tiny stuff to complain about. Lets stop hatin and admit TC is an ATG, he is the best 135-140 pounder to ever breathe

lol, yeah ok. I like Crawford and he Is the next big thing In boxing, along with Errol Spence. That will eventually be the super fight to see.

[MDPopescu]

... What king of money managed to get Pacquiao vs Horn?

[ironmt]

Well if they make Crawford fight at a CW, maybe.

There is a clear type of fighter that Bob didn't have Manny fight after Morales outboxed him in their 1st fight. The names I mentioned were all boxers and movers with significantly longer reach than Manny.

They had the skill and length to keep Manny away from them with their jabs and would be better able to counter his shots and avoid his power.

If Bob kept Manny away from fighters like Morales after the first loss why did he fight him two more times and what was the outcome?

How many fighters has Pacquiao had the size and reach advantage on throughout his career?

[Street]

No shame in saying that.
Crawford has the style to beat Pac very easy. And unlike Horn or Mayweather, Crawford is never satisfied with just winning the rounds, he pushes himself to get you out of there.
Pac should retire, it's time to step aside and enjoy retirement with good health. Why risk ending up punch drunk

[The Big Dunn]

If Bob kept Manny away from fighters like Morales after the first loss why did he fight him two more times and what was the outcome?

How many fighters has Pacquiao had the size and reach advantage on throughout his career?

Morales had gotten demolished by Raheem and went up in weight and then dropped back down. I think Arum and the matchmakers rightly calculated that Manny would fare better then the 1st fight.

Morales was a huge draw and the house fighter at MGM. Losing to him wouldn't hurt. Losing to lesser draws would've. Thats why no Raheem, who couldn't draw anyone.

I don't know. It's about the ability to box and move, not size. Margs, Clottey are not threats because they stand right in front of you and don't move. They are also much slower. Again this is Manny a guy that said about Floyd (parphrasing) "he didn't stand still so I couldn't hit him".

[ironmt]

Morales had gotten demolished by Raheem and went up in weight and then dropped back down. I think Arum and the matchmakers rightly calculated that Manny would fare better then the 1st fight.

Morales was a huge draw and the house fighter at MGM. Losing to him wouldn't hurt. Losing to lesser draws would've. Thats why no Raheem, who couldn't draw anyone.

I don't know. It's about the ability to box and move, not size. Margs, Clottey are not threats because they stand right in front of you and don't move. They are also much slower. Again this is Manny a guy that said about Floyd (parphrasing) "he didn't stand still so I couldn't hit him".

So, Morales was shot because he lost to Raheem? The same Morales that fought Barrera and Pacquiao just before fighting Raheem. The same Morales that went on to fight Marcos Maidana In 2011 with many giving Morales the win In that fight.

There is a clear type of fighter that Bob didn't have Manny fight. They had the skill and length to keep Manny away from them with their jabs and would be better able to counter his shots and avoid his power.

I asked you how many opponents Manny has fought that he had an advantage on when It came to size and length since length seems to be one of the attributes you touched on when describing the type of fighter that Manny avoided and after making the above statement your answer was

I don't know.

Why do you feel the need to attempt to diminish Pacquiao's resume?

One loss to Raheem between Pacquiao fights does not make Morales shot. That Is absurd to say the least. If any fights would have diminished Morales It would have been the Barrera fights.

[ironmt]

No shame in saying that.
Crawford has the style to beat Pac very easy. And unlike Horn or Mayweather, Crawford is never satisfied with just winning the rounds, he pushes himself to get you out of there.
Pac should retire, it's time to step aside and enjoy retirement with good health. Why risk ending up punch drunk

Absolutely agree. I can't wait to see where Crawford goes from here. The super fight of the future Spence vs Crawford.

[The Big Dunn]

So, Morales was shot because he lost to Raheem? The same Morales that fought Barrera and Pacquiao just before fighting Raheem. The same Morales that went on to fight Marcos Maidana In 2011 with many giving Morales the win In that fight.

There is a clear type of fighter that Bob didn't have Manny fight. They had the skill and length to keep Manny away from them with their jabs and would be better able to counter his shots and avoid his power.

I asked you how many opponents Manny has fought that he had an advantage on when It came to size and length since length seems to be one of the attributes you touched on when describing the type of fighter that Manny avoided and after making the above statement your answer was

I don't know.

Why do you feel the need to attempt to diminish Pacquiao's resume?

One loss to Raheem between Pacquiao fights does not make Morales shot. That Is absurd to say the least. If any fights would have diminished Morales It would have been the Barrera fights.

Did I post Morales was shot? Please discuss my post. What you are doing is making up something I said and trying to create a false pretense for the discussion.

Morales was battered by Raheem and would''ve been KTFO had Raheem had any power. Added to that, he had to get back down to 130 which he stuggled to make (which is why he went up to fight raheem). Arum and the matchmakers already had the rematch with Morales signed so they fought, manny won, he never fought raheem.

Why are you pretending I am attempting to diminish his resume. You responded to my post about Crawford relative to Manny. I then responded to that post. Pretending that I posted "Morales was shot" or that I am " trying to diminish manny's resume" is dishonest of you.

The points I made a accurate and fair. Just because they are not flattering to Manny shouldn't cause you to react like this.

[deuce_drop]

of course, they don't want the Crawford fight, he'd take Pacquiao out more easily than anyone gives Crawford credit for. Terence Crawford has one of the best adaptations skills inside the ring I've ever seen. He really knows how to make the right adjustments in almost ever moment of the fight.

Sadly, Pacquiao, as he's always been fairly predictable, he's just been so fast and powerful there isn't much many were able to do to stop his attacks, even though they knew it was coming, also being so quick he could be very slick too, but with his predictability and also slowing down in overall speed, he'd be ripe for Crawford, because Manny still takes risks throwing multi-punch combinations and when throwing three or more punches, you leave yourself open long enough for a guy like Crawford to exploit the openings. Crawfords timing has been impeccable and will be for quite some time.

either way, this isn't really a fight Pacquiao wants riding out the end of his career. Even a rematch with Horn isn't the best idea for Manny, but it is a fight I had him winning, I believe he won by at least four rounds, but I don't think he'll ever get a fair share, and Horn was a big bruiser who leads with his face and head first, he can take a punch. Horn has definitely proven that he is willing to take a punch or few to try and land one. he's a tough bastardo.