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Originally posted by Mike D
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I scored it for Pac, but I think it was super close and could have gone either way. Pac got rough housed and outworked by a green fighter with very little pro experience. That has to hurt his legacy a bit. I think it knocks him down the ATG list by a few spots. -
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I thought Pac won but struggled. What more do you want from me? You want me to kiss his and pretend he didn't have a competitive fight with Jeff Horn?Originally posted by Thraxox View PostComment
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It's only tainting it if he keeps fighting at 147 against way bigger guys as he ages. If he moves down to 135, he could actually KO guys like Linares, Easter, possibly even Mikey Garcia or Vasyl Lomachenko, and enhance his legacy spectacularly before retiring. There's a chance he could literally beat every champion at 135 right now and retire undisputed champion of 135 at age 39 or 40, one of the greatest feats ever in boxing. Would that tarnish ****? Hell no! So I hope we see it.Comment
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No more than Roy Jones Jr can. Not a Pac fan but the dude was a great boxer and provided the world with a lot of exciting fights.Comment
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PAC would win any poll. Floyd would only ever get 164 votes that's all his fans here.
PAC being koed to jmm and losing to horn doesn't effect PAC being considered greater than Floyd. Every fighter loses. F!oyd arguably losing to maidana, Castillo and PAC is not a problem, no big deal and nothing to criticise Floyd's resume for.
The real issue and problem is that Floyd always tried get things in his favour, and didn't fight who he said he could beat, opponents with no special effects, not taking risks is where problem lies with floyd. Floyd not beating as good fighters as PAC and or fighting past prime fighters and not beating them as convincingly as PAC is another proibkem for floyd. Always homev advantage as well.
He's bigger than PAC, longer arms, height, weight yet only fought the same people as PAC. Not doing anything to distance himself from chasing pack.
Why hasn't Floyd fought at least a handful of people that PAC wouldnt have as they are too big for PAC?Comment
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Manny took horn for granted no way was he focused or motivated to fight a novice.
Now that he has lost he has motivation, I would take the rematch which a motivated Manny will box rings around Horn, after he wins that retire.Comment
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Hope thats what happens.He won the last fight 8-4 but hey... Robberies happens in boxing.Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
Hope he retires after that. The young boys will give him a hard defeat if he stays there too long.
Sure he can beat a couple of guys but the big strong WW like Spence etc... no way...
Too small too oldComment
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They wont rob him twice and ref will be a lot different also, I think a rematch is a totally different fight with Manny just out boxing him clearly or he could get the stoppage, Horn is not very good he didn't win the fight because he is a elite WC, Thurman and Spence destroy Horn.Originally posted by boxinggod101 View Post
But yeah Id take the rematch and call it a day Manny cannot beat the elite full WWs, he hasn't been able to beat them in years that's why they have matched him the way they have.
He has nothing to prove beat Horn and retire an ATG.Comment
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He already tainted it by fighting floyd with an injury- an injury severe enough to not disclose to the commission in fear of them cancelling the fight because they might have deemed manny not fit enough to fight. It was a money grab.
Another explanation is gross negligence and incompetence on konsz part or he was worried the injury may leak to floyds team
Manny listens to roach so if roach says horn rematch then retire, thats what it will beComment
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