Greater fighter: Roy Jones Jr or Floyd Mayweather?

[Xi_]

Roy took L's and is continuing to take L's......they count.....roy is also dinged for using roids....so floyd>>>>>>>roy.

[Sp0rty Cr@ig]

Montell Griffin fight doesnt count? Lmao

That was a clear DQ

[robertzimmerman]

no..

I said they weren't in their prime and if you are to include Mosley, Cotto and DLH on Floyd's resume, then you also have to include Trinidad and Lacy on Roy's

I get your point, but there's no comparison between Oscar and Tito.

Although he was past his best, Oscar was still a top level fighter in 2007. That was a very good win for Floyd.

Roy's win over Tito was completely meaningless. Tito hadn't fought in 3 years, and he couldn't even make the agreed upon C-W of 170 pounds.

Mosley and Cotto were also faded, but they have to be better wins than Roy's wins over Tito and Lacy.


This is a great thread, with so many variables to consider.

What if Floyd had fought 50 times but in the timeframe that Roy did, going up in weight like Roy did, but then burning muscle to go back down in just a few months like Roy did? How would that have affected him?

What if Roy had've been comfortable, just fighting once per year over a prolonged period like Floyd did, without putting his body through as much?

What if Roy had adapted his style to compensate for his age?

[Kigali]

Did you say that DLH, Pac, Mosley, Hernandez and Canelo were all prime? Marquez and Cotto at their best? The rest are not elites. Floyd never fought an elite fighter in their prime.

When you look at prime Jones toy with opponents and his un,arched speed and reflexes its no contest. Roy was never boring, that is for certain.

Nor did Dempsey

[Chollo Vista]

I get your point, but there's no comparison between Oscar and Tito.

Although he was past his best, Oscar was still a top level fighter in 2007. That was a very good-great win for Floyd.

Roy's win over Tito was completely meaningless. Tito hadn't fought in 3 years, and he couldn't even make the agreed upon CW of 170 pounds.

Mosley and Cotto were also faded, but they have to be better wins than Roy's wins over Tito and Lacy.


This is a great thread, with so many variables to consider.

What if Floyd had fought 50 times but in the timeframe that Roy did, going up in weight like Roy did, but then burning muscle to go back down in just a few months like Roy did? How would that have affected him?

What if Roy had've been comfortable, just fighting once per year over a prolonged period like Floyd did, without putting his body through as much?

What if Roy had adapted his style to compensate for his age?

Great points. Especially the part about fighting once a year and several retirements when things were hot. I forgot all about that.

If Floyd fights Williams, Marg, Pac and Cotto between 2008-2009, does he make it out unscathed? I don't know.

But what we do know, is Roy fought Toney, Hopkins and Top 10 of all time Virgil Hill when he did.

So many question marks about Floyd, but not that many about prime Roy.

Also, prime for prime, Floyd arguably lost fights to DLH/Castillo, whereas Roy was DQ'd. I don't know what that means, I'll boxingscene decide

[ray moe]

Mayweather is the best fighter I've seen in my life. Yes he's better than roy jones.

[Kigali]

Mayweather is better

Better defense
Better work ethic
Better on the inside.
Better off the ropes.

[Kigali]

Roy took L's and is continuing to take L's......they count.....roy is also dinged for using roids....so floyd>>>>>>>roy.

RJJ never used roids

He drank an over the counter SPORTS DRINK he bought in a CONVENIENCE STORE.

That's not steroids.

[Chollo Vista]

Mayweather is better

Better defense
Better work ethic
Better on the inside.
Better off the ropes.

He wasn't against DLH and Castillo. Prime RJJ never had that problem. It wasn't until after he kicked ass from 154 to heavyweight did he remotely experience what Floyd did against Castillo/DLH in his prime

Also RJJ never retired at the hottest times in his weight class.

[MoneyMayFan]

Floyd never beat a great fighter in their prime. Roy Jones did (Hopkins, Toney) so I put him above Floyd for that reason. If Floyd fought 2010 Pacquiao I would have him above Roy.

Lmao hopkins wasnt prime