Let me give you an idea on how great Roy Jones Jr really was

[E-Thug]

Another ignorant post.

Comments like the ones above really make me wonder how long you've been watching boxing.

Every fighter's circumstances are different.

Kovalev isn't past prime.

At 35, after 50 fights, that included going to HW and back, Roy was.

Nobody thinks that Glen Johnson would have beaten the LHW versions of Roy who beat the likes of Hill and Reggie. There was a very noticeable difference between Roy at his peak, and the versions from 2003-2004.

Regarding Joe, he was obviously a better fighter than Roy on the night. But the best versions of Joe, wern't better than the best versions of Roy. Roy was clearly on another level in his prime.

Before we go any further, you really need to view the following links. When Roy was anywhere near his best, Joe made sure he stayed well clear. But when he knew he was done, he was happy to offer him a fight. And that was after he'd dismissed him on numerous occasions. When it came to Roy, Joe was a scavenger.

Here:


1999:

"I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money"

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEcQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefreelibrary.com%2FBoxing%253A%2BI'm%2Blord%2Bof%2Bthe%2BWelsh%2Brings%2Bsays%2BCalzaghe.-a060444934&ei=cKhKUvqxE-TD0QXMlIDYBQ&usg=AFQjCNF3ysuN84aDc4ba0qzOLrKKpC7d2Q

2003:

"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown ***els I wouldn't want to risk it."

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standard.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fi-am-the-best-says-honest-joe-6352495.html&ei=C6dKUsmwAcTt0gWhlIHoBg&usg=AFQjCNGBiajy97Q2nyzEcM3Y1U61BRttVw&bvm=bv.53371865,d.Yms

2007:

"I have no interest anymore in Roy Jones, and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up, and Tarver was never that good anyway, he just caught Jones when he was shot and Johnson did the same"

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GD6dlJDc8SkC&pg=PA300&lpg=PA300&dq=no+ordinary+joe+joe+calzaghe+roy+jones+tarver+johnson&source=bl&ots=PiQnMK0hzh&sig=t_3pZY73pvUJtjkMqDGUCv87Yxo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu0JPTqdzUAhVJXhQKHa8hDs8Q6AEILTAC

2008:

Go to 6 min, 30 secs

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2008:

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Calzaghe's%2Bcall%2Bset%2Bup%2Bdream%2Bfight%2Bwith%2BJones.-a0185276248&sa=U&ei=HApMUo6ZAsiRhQegxICQAg&ved=0CAcQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFWkTeOp9brXyUQIG6tWJk-FVuWwg

Absolutely pathetic.

Joe would never have fought Roy in his prime. And if he had've done, every knowledgeable fan including Joe himself, knows exactly what would have happened.

I get that you're a huge fan, but it's time for you to get your head from out of your ass and have a reality check.

Joe was so obsessed with keeping his zero intact, he played it safe, defending a lightly regarded WBO belt for 21 times, against mainly B and C class opposition.

He wasn't at all unbeatable, but he made damn sure he was going to retire undefeated.


Get back to me.

Don't give me a typical fan boy response.

Give me an actual response based upon the above.

He's not a fan, he's a ****head

If Jones fought B and C fighters then Calzaghe fought G and H level fighters

"People wouldn't fight joe"

What an absolute crock of ****

And Calzaghe only fought 3 fighters ranked in the top 5 in his pathetic career. To compare his opposition to Jones's is laughable.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA the truth is IronDan, bigdramashow aka Chris the ****** gets excited whenever someone fights bums e.g. Calzaghe and Golovkin. Don't forget he was tossing off to Kovalev too who only has 2 wins worth a damn in Pascal and Hopkins' corpse.

I LOVE IT when a fellow Brit denigrates Calzaghe's career. Only fought 3 fighters in the top 5 ever out of 46 wins, best wins were near enough corpses and ghosts, got a gift against Reid and refused to test himself.

He's a fraud and I'll never understand why some people suck him off when we've produced infinitely better fighters.

[robertzimmerman]

I'm fully aware of the fact that Eubank knew that Jones would kill him and the he blatantly avoided top guys during his prime (besides Benn and Watson) but how can it be that all those names were around the time of Jones and he didn't faced any of them despite them facing each other frequently?.
I know that it is almost impossible to make all the big fights, but look at all those names and when you can have arguments regarding the time of their activity, I find weird that not a single one of them could get in the ring with Jones when they would usually get in the ring with each other.

Roy Jones was an incredibly talented boxer and I usually defend him when people said that he was all athletiscm or that he didn't faced no one, but there are huge holes in his resume.

There are holes in his resume, but again, you need to know what was happening behind the scenes.

First of all, you need to realise that Roy's father wrapped him in cotton wool, even hiding title fight opportunities from him. Roy's career didn't start to progress until they split in 1992. At that point, his advisors - The Levin's, signed him up with Bob Arum, for a number of his fights to be shown on HBO. And whilst he fought decent guys like Castro, he hadn't done anything until he'd beaten Bernard for a vacant title in 1993. Now if you look where some of those fighters you mentioned were in 1993, the fights weren't viable. Kalambay had retired, Graham had been knocked out, and Barkley was up at SMW facing Toney. But the main stumbling block, was that the Levin's and King had a deep dislike and distrust of each other, and King's fighters fought on Showtime.

After Roy had fought Bernard, he wanted the biggest fight out there. And that was against Toney. But after he'd beaten Toney, he couldn't fight Benn or Liles, which is why he moved up to LHW. At LHW, neither Dariusz or Bernard was willing to fight him.

[SN!PER]

2007:

"I have no interest anymore in Roy Jones, and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up, and Tarver was never that good anyway, he just caught Jones when he was shot and Johnson did the same"

I'm one of the fans who wanted to see Calzaghe vs. Tarver. This is a sad quote from Joe. He was bitter, probably like other boxers at the time, that Tarver had become the first man to knockout Roy. Even if it was just a 75% Roy, it was still a major accomplishment. I liked Joe as a fighter, but the two things he really missed out on were facing Tarver and giving Hopkins a much deserved rematch.

[repsa]

Jones was amazing, should have retired s long time back.

[Johnny Steele]

Roy jones is tye type of fighter the term atg should be reserved for. People throw it around a bit too easy these days.

Dude had a **** chin even in his prime hahaha! Imagine he had a live opponent in front of him. It would have been curtains for Roid.

[Johnny Steele]

People really don't realize why and how RJJ is the GOAT

Roid Jones is a scrub. Here's why:

1)Roy Jones lacked the chin to be considered a genuine great.

2)Who did he beat? James Toney is the best name on his crap record. And James Toney is an over rated fat journeyman.

3)Jones was a scared coward who ducked Dariusz Michalczewski. Dariusz would have put this clown to sleep in the first 30 seconds.

4)Jones is a known drugs cheat. His already underwhelming record is now even more suspect since it is a proven fact he took steroids.

5)Bum can't handle the southpaw stance.

6)He has been humiliated far to many times to be considered a great fighter.

[robertzimmerman]

I'm one of the fans who wanted to see Calzaghe vs. Tarver. This is a sad quote from Joe. He was bitter, probably like other boxers at the time, that Tarver had become the first man to knockout Roy. Even if it was just a 75% Roy, it was still a major accomplishment. I liked Joe as a fighter, but the two things he really missed out on were facing Tarver and giving Hopkins a much deserved rematch.

That was how Joe was.

He dismissed Tarver, Pavlik and Dawson, saying that they didn't impress him and they'd done nothing to warrant a fight. Yet he was happy to fight Bika and Manfredo, and a guy who he'd labelled shot just a year earlier.

[Johnny Steele]

Nobody beats Roy from 160-175 in his prime ever!

This man would have beat the **** out of Roid.
But Roid is a coward who didn't like fighting punchers.
Shameless duck.

[robertzimmerman]

Dude had a **** chin even in his prime hahaha! Imagine he had a live opponent in front of him. It would have been curtains for Roid.

He didn't possess a great chin, but he took a few good shots before Tarver and Johnson got to him.

Regarding the Del Valle video, it was a decent shot, but Roy may not have gone down had his back foot not slipped on the wet canvas. If you watched that fight, you'd realise that the referee had to wipe the canvas with a towel on 2 occasions leading up to that. If you look at the overhead shot, you'll clearly see his right foot slip hard from beneath him, causing him to fall face first.

[robertzimmerman]

Roid Jones is a scrub. Here's why:

1)Roy Jones lacked the chin to be considered a genuine great.

2)Who did he beat? James Toney is the best name on his crap record. And James Toney is an over rated fat journeyman.

3)Jones was a scared coward who ducked Dariusz Michalczewski. Dariusz would have put this clown to sleep in the first 30 seconds.

4)Jones is a known drugs cheat. His already underwhelming record is now even more suspect since it is a proven fact he took steroids.

5)Bum can't handle the southpaw stance.

6)He has been humiliated far to many times to be considered a great fighter.

Why have you even commented you clown?

You obviously don't want to debate.

Dariusz would have put Roy to sleep in 30 seconds?

Ha!

Move along you nut.