Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Ward-Kovalev Ending Unsatisfactory, Trilogy Needed

[embryo]

I think Kovalev really got screwed in both fights. 2nd fight should not have been stopped, and Ward should have been penalized for low blows instead of being awarded a KO.

Totally embarrassing for the sport.

[champion4ever]

Then their mistrust is completely misplaced. If they were going to be mistrusting, they should have been mistrusting working in a gym full of black Americans from the hood.. I'm not stereotyping black people in general at all, but we see the culture now in black American boxing specifically that is one of the most racist cultures around.

So I mean, why wouldn't Kovalev trust Memo or Ariza?

So what you're saying makes no sense. You're going trust black American boxers who came up in a very racist, anti-Russian era and are part of a subculture (black American boxing) known for being extremely ignorant and racist, but you're not going to trust Ariza or Memo? I don't get that at all.

Wow! So you ask, why wouldn't Kovalev trust Memo or Ariza? Because for the simple fact that one of them have a criminal background. It's just that simple.

In addition, your rant seem very personal and racist to me as if you hold some kind of racial animus towards JDJ and Don Turner because they are black. Moreover, you shouldn't be telling this to me because I am not going to hire them for any kind of strength or conditioning training.

The man you should save this rant for is Sergey Kovalev. Tell it to him. Go onto his instagram page or twitter feed and rant to him about it or better yet contact Main Events about hiring the men you mentioned with dubious pasts such as Memo Ángel Heredia Hernandez; A former drug dealer who was complicitous in that Balco scandal several years back.

I would much rather trust and work with JDJ and Don Turner from the hood with no criminal background, more than I would those latter two who does. Well at least one of them do.

Lastly, I strongly believe that there was a strong break down in communication with both Kovalev, John David Jackson and Don Turner. He simply didn't trust those guys. Why would he hire and pay someone in his camp that he doesn't trust? It just doesn't make sense to me.

[Superbee]

Why beat a dead horse ? One can only imagine the outcome of a third fight...

[TheBigLug]

We SHOULD get a third but it won't happen. Both victories were controversial even though i believe Ward was probably on his way to winning but you never know, 1 punch can change everything. Imagine Wlad was stopped when Joshua dropped him in the 5th round (?), we'd have never have seen Wlad turn the fight around and make a great fight of it.

It's hard to sell a trilogy when one guy technically wins in both of the previous fights, as controversial as they may have been. Maybe in a couple of years time if they're both still active and at the top of the division people might get interested again.

[Metho_4u]

I think Kovalev really got screwed in both fights. 2nd fight should not have been stopped, and Ward should have been penalized for low blows instead of being awarded a KO.

Totally embarrassing for the sport.

Pretty much all the low blow conspiracy has been debunked...kovalev was getting his ass handed to him, ref stopped it...gtfover it.

[Metho_4u]

I've been saying this too. While the Russian amateur system seems to be better at teaching boxing SKILL now (certainly clean boxing, anyway), the American fighters are still lightyears ahead when it comes to science, and beating PED tests, and using the most up to date training methods.

Floyd used vampire facials, hyperbaric chambers, God knows what else. Ward had acne all over his back so he probably used PEDs, but we know for a fact he uses altitude chambers.

At the very top level of the sport, if fighters like Kovalev want to reach #1 P4P despite the judges and refs being against them, you're not going to reach that pinnacle training in the woods, or doing normal ****. The top 5 pound for pound level of the sport, especially when you're competing against corrupt/juiced American boxers for it, is not the "run around the woods" level of the sport. No, that is the vampire facial level of the sport. That is the hyperbaric chamber level of the sport. That is the ice baths level of the sport. That is the "cut 15 pounds in 30 hours and then rehydrate back up 25 pounds over the next 24 without losing speed or stamina" level of the sport.

Certain American fighters have the scientists in their camp who know how to do that. Kovalev supposedly a "big" light heavyweight fighting below 190 on fight night CLEARLY does not. He should be fighting between 195 or 200, then guys like Ward would not be taking his shots all night without hitting the canvas once. But when Ward knows how to rehydrate up close to 200, and you only know how to rehydrate up to 185 or 188, he's going to be able to negate your power just with pure size. And that's what happened. Kovalev walked Ward into even better jabs in the second fight than the one that staggered him in the first fight, but Ward didn't even stagger, because he had added 10 pounds between the last fight and this fight, and used the Danny Jacobs re-hydration tricks that worked so well against GGG earlier this year.

Until the European fighters catch up not just in skills, which has already happened, but in science, they may still beat the top American fighters, like Kovalev-Ward I, but they will never dominate them enough to get the decision, and they will never be able to knock them out and take it out of the hands of the judges so long as they are fighting at 10 pound weight disadvantages in the ring. If Kovalev and Klimas are smart, he has already called Ariza or Memo.

I mean, Egis owns the gym in Oxnard now, which is precisely where Ariza used to work with Robert Garcia's fighters. So Ariza is even in that area, it would work very well. But, they have to be smart enough to make the call.

STILL b1tching about Floyd.... why? Because he made Manny look ******?

You talk about JDJ, and yet it was love who's called people "monkeys" and told JDJ to shut up in the first fight, Sanchez has said he was "stubborn" and hard to work with....how does that made the man a turncoat? Maybe he simply wasn't happy with kovalassh0le, and tried to get another job...happens all the time in this world.

I think your rants are race based, whiny, ridiculous and absolutely ****ing pathetic tbh. I think basically you're just a puzzy whiner.

[MASTERBX]

Kovalev played into (with the help of HBO) the "ungodly commie" Ward proved he was just a PUNK!

[SteveM]

See here: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=750230

gracias amigo - poor Kovalev - that said I could do with $70K right now never mind $700K - but not much for a top 5 pfp fighter fighting top 2 p4p fighter -