Comments Thread For: Boxing: Not Dying. Again.

[BWC]

I wouldn't say that negativity is completely unwarranted. Go to ESPN.com and notice that their drop-down menus and banners are void of boxing. A several years ago there was an actual a tab for boxing, then it got buried under "Other Sports", now its non-existent. Boxing gets the ugly stepchild treatment from mainstream sports networks and print magazines. Only mentioned when a huge mega-million fight is being promoted.

Well that's part of what the article is saying, ESPN just isn't showing the fights, it's going to actually invest in it. I would expect boxing to be a much more prominent portion of the ESPN platform if these fights get viewership..

[A-Wolf]

That was a terribly promoted fight between unknown boxers. I don't think its indicative of a larger trend.

Lay it out for me.

[BWC]

Lay it out for me.

Google it man. Every member of the boxing media and boxing fans everywhere knew that promotion was flaming hot garbage.

[Kosta]

Just wait till the ******** ban head shots

[ShoulderRoll]

I'm glad Cliff gave PBC some credit.

So sick of seeing certain boxing "journalists"/paid promotional shills using their platform to take shots at PBC and not give them a fair shake.

[A-Wolf]

Google it man. Every member of the boxing media and boxing fans everywhere knew that promotion was flaming hot garbage.

Precisely the reason I want you to verify the chatter. If the best that you've got in the way of an argument is to ask me to worship at the Alter of the Lemmings and accept as a truth; innuendo and Group Think, you're in the wrong place. I'm tired of that crap. We need to start thinking for ourselves again.

The rumor is the fight was badly promoted. Do you know of what you speak or are you repeating a rumor?

[BWC]

Precisely the reason I want you to verify the chatter. If the best that you've got in the way of an argument is to ask me to worship at the Alter of the Lemmings and accept as a truth; innuendo and Group Think, you're in the wrong place. I'm tired of that crap. We need to start thinking for ourselves again.

The rumor is the fight was badly promoted. Do you know of what you speak or are you repeating a rumor?

Ummmm did you hear about, discuss, or see any of the principals anywhere, anytime doing anything remotely in the furtherance of the promotion of the bout??

[A-Wolf]

Ummmm did you hear about, discuss, or see any of the principals anywhere, anytime doing anything remotely in the furtherance of the promotion of the bout??

Of course. I saw Ward and Kovalev all over ESPN promoting the fight in the leadup during the NBA Finals and otherwise and various talk shows. I saw numerous clips online and tons of articles.

[GhostofDempsey]

This is from the GBP lawsuit. It seems Haymon has only paid the networks $38.2MM

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/1/1...ce-boxing-news

$38.2 Million
Deetz calculated the following net amounts paid by Haymon to television networks. For the four networks listed, instead of receiving a rights fee for PBC content, Haymon paid them a grand total of $38,225,000, according to Deetz’s report. Based on available documents, it’s not clear if these are annual figures or the aggregate amount paid over time.

CBS: $4,225,000
ESPN: $8,000,000
FOX: $12,500,000
NBC: $13,500,000

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/2...bc-boxing-news

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-al-haymon-boxing-20160203-story.html

http://www.fightopinion.com/2016/08/08/boxing-al-haymon-*******-430-million-waddell-ivy/

[BWC]

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/2...bc-boxing-news

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-al-haymon-boxing-20160203-story.html

http://www.fightopinion.com/2016/08/...n-waddell-ivy/

This "analysis" is idiotic. Any junior financial analyst will tell you that a company's valuation is based on discounted cash flows. Since PBC has no fixed TV deals as of this second, the value of the shares are of course low as CAPEX is outlaid. Any fixed TV deal would flip these numbers instantly. This is simply mind-blowingly biased and absolutely terrible "journalism"..