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  • #31
    And now top rank with espn will be showing free fights like it used to be. Manny horn free. It should be used to introduce new talent and build up promotion of contenders headed for ppv fight

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    • #32
      Leonard Hearns Duran Tyson hagler Holmes all fought on free tv or hbo made you become a fan have a favorite so when it came time to pay for a huge fight you had no problem

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BWC View Post
        We frankly have no idea what PBC has spent, taken in, etc. It's all speculation at this point.
        The half-billion figure is correct. You can look it up for yourself.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          By Cliff Rold - Hold off the eulogies. Bring quality product and quality results might follow. After an often abysmal 2016, boxing has rebounded in a huge way this year. Last year we were talking about the cancellation of Tyson Fury-Wladimir Klitschko. This year we get Klitschko-Anthony Joshua. Last year, Canelo Alvarez announced he would fight Gennady Golovkin in 2017...
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          The worse thing to happen to boxing in the last few years, was the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight stinking up the joint. That was bad for boxing. There was a record audience, and Floyd fought scared, and Pac didn't throw his usual amount of punches. Boring arse fight.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BWC View Post
            The NFL and NBA in the US and Footie in the rest of the world are in a league of their own but beyond that boxing can compete with any other sport IMHO. It certainly can be the biggest individual sport with NASCAR and golf in serious decline. MLB really doesn't do great ratings aside from the League Championships and the World Series. NHL is getting to be nearly niche.

            We need to get over our little inferiority complex as boxing fans. There's no reason boxing can't be huge again..
            It's ironic that you mention the NFL and the NBA, because that's what really killed boxing! Heavyweights used to "rule the world." The athletes that have the skills to be the next Muhammad Ali or George Foreman, is somewhere learning how to dunk a basketball, or sack a quarterback. If not that, he's in a batting cage in the Dominican Republic! When boxing ruled the world, boxers were the "high-paid" athletes! Now it's hard to tell the next LeBron that he should get punched in the face for a living!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by RSBonos View Post
              They didn't try all that hard. They spent investor money poorly, i'm sure that Haymon doesn't care one way or another.

              I will say that boxing fans themselves love to wallow in constant negativity, you see it in all sports but it's highlighted with individual competition.

              Funny enough that now with MMA being popular for one generation already, you already hear this sort of talk among that fanbase also, so I guess it's part of the prize fighting game.
              I wouldn't say that negativity is completely unwarranted. Go to ESPN.com and notice that their drop-down menus and banners are void of boxing. A several years ago there was an actual a tab for boxing, then it got buried under "Other Sports", now its non-existent. Boxing gets the ugly stepchild treatment from mainstream sports networks and print magazines. Only mentioned when a huge mega-million fight is being promoted.

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              • #37
                Hmm.. Don't know if I can agree. Look at the numbers for Ward vs. Kovalev II. People can say what they want about Ward's marketability but I'd say boxing is in a terrible place for that kind of result under any circumstances.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
                  Hmm.. Don't know if I can agree. Look at the numbers for Ward vs. Kovalev II. People can say what they want about Ward's marketability but I'd say boxing is in a terrible place for that kind of result under any circumstances.
                  That was a terribly promoted fight between unknown boxers. I don't think its indicative of a larger trend.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                    The half-billion figure is correct. You can look it up for yourself.
                    We know that's the equity amount W&R invested. We have no idea of the financial performance of PBC..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BWC View Post
                      We know that's the equity amount W&R invested. We have no idea of the financial performance of PBC..
                      This is from the GBP lawsuit. It seems Haymon has only paid the networks $38.2MM

                      https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/1/1...ce-boxing-news

                      $38.2 Million
                      Deetz calculated the following net amounts paid by Haymon to television networks. For the four networks listed, instead of receiving a rights fee for PBC content, Haymon paid them a grand total of $38,225,000, according to Deetz’s report. Based on available documents, it’s not clear if these are annual figures or the aggregate amount paid over time.

                      CBS: $4,225,000
                      ESPN: $8,000,000
                      FOX: $12,500,000
                      NBC: $13,500,000

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