Comments Thread For: Lemieux To Billy Joe Saunders: I Can't Wait To Destroy You, P*ssy!

[sicko]

No wonder your name is sicko.

I guess so

[aboutfkntime]

He should have sold his title sooner to one of the bigger names. He had several opportunities to unify and instead chose to hold onto the title for over a year before finally agreeing to fight Golovkin in June, which unfortunately fell through, but I guess that's what he deserved for taking his sweet time in deciding how he would cash his belt out.....

not sure if I entirely agree with that..... but, fair enough

..... Billy Joe has really held back the division by holding the title hostage for so long, not even choosing to defend it within mandated periods (9 months).....

rubbish

what fight did he prevent ?

FACT: Golovkin offered Saunders 1.5mil..... when he stopped laughing, Saunders asked for more money..... Golovkin walked away to fight Dominic Wade

Saunders then watched Kell Brook make 4-5mil+

also, he was genuinely injured during part of that timeframe

..... again, what fight did he prevent from happening ?

I know for a fact that he has called out every relevant fighter at 160 over the last 12 months, except for maybe Danny Jacobs..... including Golovkin, Canelo, and Lemieux..... dating right back to his refusal to fight Rosado in Vegas because GBP would not contractually guarantee him Canelo next

sorry, but this is just starting to sound like typical NSB bashing

..... If BJ can beat Lemieux he can regain his relevance in the division but I don't see that happening.....

Exactly !!

just like that, in 1 fight..... so, no big deal

and..... Lemieux is over-rated, Saunders is under-rated..... at least, the slim/active version is under-rated

lesser fighters have out-boxed Lemieux

..... Lemieux vs Saunders reminds me of the first Ward vs Kovalev fight, one hard hitting, active fighter against an inactive, slick boxer. The big difference is that BJ is not Andre Ward and his inactivity will be an even bigger factor than it was for Ward.

I definitely agree with that, that could be an issue alright

good point, I didn't see that comparison

[aboutfkntime]

I think if he gets a little better in the boxing department he could take out BJS.

he doesn't seem to have progressed much since the Rubio fight ?

his strengths seem to be better, but his skill/game doesn't appear to have developed

he still has the same limitations, he needs to be more well-rounded to live with the top-level guys imho..... Saunders has fought plenty of tough guys

[Vegemil]

he doesn't seem to have progressed much since the Rubio fight ?

his strengths seem to be better, but his skill/game doesn't appear to have developed

he still has the same limitations, he needs to be more well-rounded to live with the top-level guys imho..... Saunders has fought plenty of tough guys

Yeah he was taking a lot of punches from that living corpse in his last fight. He has to get a new trainer that focuses on something other than his power.

[World Champion?]

rubbish

what fight did he prevent ?

FACT: Golovkin offered Saunders 1.5mil..... when he stopped laughing, Saunders asked for more money..... Golovkin walked away to fight Dominic Wade

Saunders then watched Kell Brook make 4-5mil+

also, he was genuinely injured during part of that timeframe

..... again, what fight did he prevent from happening ?

I know for a fact that he has called out every relevant fighter at 160 over the last 12 months, except for maybe Danny Jacobs..... including Golovkin, Canelo, and Lemieux..... dating right back to his refusal to fight Rosado in Vegas because GBP would not contractually guarantee him Canelo next

sorry, but this is just starting to sound like typical NSB bashing

Exactly !!

just like that, in 1 fight..... so, no big deal

and..... Lemieux is over-rated, Saunders is under-rated..... at least, the slim/active version is under-rated

lesser fighters have out-boxed Lemieux

I definitely agree with that, that could be an issue alright

good point, I didn't see that comparison

I don't know how to quote all the mini quotes so I'm just putting the whole quote together and will answer each question one by one.

Firstly, he has had the belt for over 18 months and has defended it once against an unknown #12 ranked fighter who was no threat to him. Before taking that fight he wanted to face Max Bursak, another guy who is no threat. Billy joe should have had at least 2 mandatory fights by now against the top rated WBO fighter, however the WBO hasn't seen any reason to call one, not even now.

In my opinion, BJ has potentially held up fights by not facing the best available fighters or taken any top mandatory fights. I don't blame him for not fighting GGG, he doesn't have to, but he hasn't even defended his title every 9 months as is required by WBO rules. In reality he should not have been allowed to negotiate a unification with Golovkin as at the time he was required to have 2 consecutive mandatories defenses. The WBO has done everything it can to accomodate Frank Warren and BJ's ambition of cashing out the belt but he has somehow managed to blow his opportunities up until now.

So without defending the titles, it's not clear where BJ sits in the division, we know how good he can be when active, but when inactive he has shown that he can allow himself to get out of shape. So right now, rather than being a challenge for GGG or Canelo, I don't think he could beat Lemieux, Jacobs or Murata.

Secondly, although BJ can regain his relevance with a win against Lemieux, that's not really something that should be in question for a 'world champion' who has held his belt for almost 2 years (by the time he fights), especially in a division where there are only 2 champions (3 if you count lineal).

Every fighter should be required to defend their belts if they are calling themselves champions, fighters can be out of shape, have a poor performance etc. and lose their title. This doesn't make them bad fighters, it is part of the game. The whole point of boxing is to prove your worth in the ring, whether or not you are expected to beat the challenger. By holding the belt and not taking on challengers BJ is not doing himself or the sport any service.

[jackblack008]

Lemiux last match was bad and commentators were saying he would have lost if it was a 12 rounder

[Deletrious]

not sure if I entirely agree with that..... but, fair enough





rubbish

what fight did he prevent ?

FACT: Golovkin offered Saunders 1.5mil..... when he stopped laughing, Saunders asked for more money..... Golovkin walked away to fight Dominic Wade

Saunders then watched Kell Brook make 4-5mil+

You make it sound like 1.5 is a joke, but Golovkin only would have made a little more, maybe 2.

Kell made way more because he's a much more popular fighter. That doesn't prove saunders right for passing, it proves he's an idiot for being inactive.

[Deletrious]

Eric Gomez says saunders not in immediate plans for lemieux. Well that was exciting for five minutes.

[deanrw]

I think if he gets a little better in the boxing department he could take out BJS.

He does not need to be a better boxer. The question is does BJS have enough power to keep Lemieux respectful? If not Lemieux will just eventually run through him. Remember BJS does not have great stamina. His legs slow down considerably after a few rounds.

[Shrap]

Lemiux last match was bad and commentators were saying he would have lost if it was a 12 rounder

...What? His last match was a 12 rounder and he won an extremely wide UD.

Although BJS is the more skilled of the two I can see Lemieux blasting him out. When Eubank Jr actually kicked it into gear and pressured BJS he started to unravel, Lemieux does this from the get go and has an extremely high workrate.