Would Ali be the best HW in today's era?

[Tom Cruise]

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Haye at 200lbs

notice ripped to the bone and dry

The only real muscle mass on him is his biceps

other than that not carrying a huge amount of muscle mass, just <7% bodyfat

a bulky meathead he is not

Your pic has been starred out. But here is Haye at 198lbs



and Ali at 201lbs:



Haye at 210lbs:



Ali at 210lbs:



Haye is clearly carrying more muscle weight than Ali. Ali is a naturally bigger guy.

[Jewish-Reptile]

In this era and the past decade no, he'd be a success at cruiser, likely the best of all times, but he'd have no place in this current era of 'super' heavy.

[Tom Cruise]

It would be absolutely comical watching these plodding lumps try and catch up with a prime 210lb Ali.

Probably be blowing out their arse by 4-5rnds, let alone heading into the championship rounds.

[Sheldon312]

In this era and the past decade no, he'd be a success at cruiser, likely the best of all times, but he'd have no place in this current era of 'super' heavy.

It just seems as if heavyweights in today's era aren't as sharp or skilled. Imagine Wilder trying to land on Tyson. It would be embarrassing.

[SugarRayCurtain]

Vlad never fought anybody as good as Ali

He couldn't make it past Ross Purrity.

Ali doesn't have to stand in front of Vlad....you see....he had OPTIONS.

His stamina and movement would allow him to keep that lumbering robot TURNING and attack him from angles he never knew existed.

Vlad lacks heart and STAMINA to compete with Ali.

So a 210lbs Ali who is 3 inches shorter than Wlad is going to dance around the ring, pull his head back then presumably counter Wlad?

I dont think youre giving Wlad enough credit, he knows how to use distance effectively hence why his jab is so effective. Its not just powerful, he knows when to throw it and how to keep smaller opponents at a distance.

People overrate Ali but the fact is he struggled and lost against guys in his career whom Wlad would beat comfortably.
In his prime (60s) he fought smaller and shorter fighters, he was huge back in the day but now he would be considered a small heavyweight.

Pulling your head back and bouncing on your toes works better against shorter slower opponents, but against bigger athletic heavyweights such like as Klitscko and Lennox Lewis? Most likely not.

[Sheldon312]

So a 210lbs Ali who is 3 inches shorter than Wlad is going to dance around the ring, pull his head back then presumably counter Wlad?

I dont think youre giving Wlad enough credit, he knows how to use distance effectively hence why his jab is so effective. Its not just powerful, he knows when to throw it and how to keep smaller opponents at a distance.

People overrate Ali but the fact is he struggled and lost against guys in his career whom Wlad would beat comfortably.
In his prime (60s) he fought smaller and shorter fighters, he was huge back in the day but now he would be considered a small heavyweight.

Pulling your head back and bouncing on your toes works better against shorter slower opponents, but against bigger athletic heavyweights such like as Klitscko and Lennox Lewis? Most likely not.

And Ali still has a better resume than all of them.

[Jewish-Reptile]

It just seems as if heavyweights in today's era aren't as sharp or skilled. Imagine Wilder trying to land on Tyson. It would be embarrassing.

Absolutely, but Wilder isn't the most skilled of the current crop of top heavies so I wouldn't use him as a gauge to see how Ali would fare now, seriously I see him struggling against the like of Povetkin and Jennings, he'd clear up against guys like Bellew at cruiser though.

[Madison Boxing]

he will never utter the name

if you say it 3 times in a mirror then turn round deontay appears and windmills you

[Madison Boxing]

of course he would. hardly invincible are they these guys, jsut cause they are big doest mean much. wilder got rocked by molina, outboxed by that polish builder. joshua got badly rocked by whyte who went life and death with chisora. fury got dropped and struggled against a crusierweight.

[Madison Boxing]

Absolutely, but Wilder isn't the most skilled of the current crop of top heavies so I wouldn't use him as a gauge to see how Ali would fare now, seriously I see him struggling against the like of Povetkin and Jennings, he'd clear up against guys like Bellew at cruiser though.

didnt marco huck give povetkin hell at heavy and he was a cruserweight? But ali would struggle, Really?