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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Only in your dreams is Floyd considered greater by most experts.
    Barrera was prime when PAC beat. SSM wasn't when Floyd beat him after his amazing one streak win over margarito.
    Don't matter PAC struggled with jmm 3 wins is better than one.





    Best fighters of the last 25 years?

    1.Mayweather
    2.Pacquiao

    http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...oxers-25-years

    Have you got a source where a panel of experts voted Pacquiao ahead of Mayweather since 2015?


    3 JMM wins isn't better than 1 clear win. It means you struggled so had rematches. Barrera wasn't prime either and they were both ranked highly P4P, lets also not forget that Pacquiao ducked Mosley at that time too. Mosley was the lineal WW champion and top 3 P4P, went to Pacquiao's gym begging for a fight, even offered to go down to 140. The answer was no, Roach said he was too good.
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    • Reloaded
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      #22
      Originally posted by AliBombaye
      If someone beat a 60 year old Floyd in the boxing ring giving him his first loss would you bring up the fact Floyd was way past his prime and 60 years old?

      Awaiting your response.
      Little bit extreme don't you think.

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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Where do I even start with bthis?
        Barrera was prime coming off 8 streak win. Morales was still greast, a loss don't make you not great. You'd still get credit for beating srr after his loss to Turpin. Moiraskes might have underestimated raheem as morales had many good performances in him in old age.

        Floyd never schooled top 3 pfo fighters! Jmm was bloated. SSM just wasnt pfp no3. Floyd's famous for not fighting prime great fighters. He's famous for trying to get things in his favour or beating people with many losses on their records, be it baldomir, 5 loss SSM or lost to PAC 3 times already jmm.

        Pac only lost to jmm as he gave him 4 chances. We don't know how many times floyd would lose to jmm, PAC, or nelo if he fought them 3 times let alone 4 times.

        Floyd isn't considered greater by most experts. PAC was a figure of fun after being koed by jmm but some so called experts numped on bsandwagon. But the furore has died down and people have come to their senses and put the ko into perspective.
        .............so is this guys post bull****?>??????????????????
        Originally posted by SteveM
        That doesn't change he fought them when they weren't in their prime. Pac was in his prime in 2008 and that prime was a couple of levels above where he was in 2015. Sure Floyd was better in 2008 too but I think Pacs fall from his prime was greater than Floyd's.

        Whats more, Floyd saw weakness in Pac before the fight got made. There's a reason why top level boxers always speak about "the blueprint" . Now same deal with Golovkin, after Brook Jacobs was mentioning blueprint.

        Now after Jacobs many experts and other boxers talking about him being exposed and the blueprint is out.
        Now, if they are doing that after Golovkin ran over Brook and went neck and neck with Danny then how much more of a blueprint existed for a smart fighter like Floyd to study after Pac's losses to JMM and Bradley?

        Thing is, you come on here on a slow news day and seek agreement from others that Floyd's resume is immaculate - but if he'd fought those fighters in their primes one of two things would have happened >> either he'd be the undisputed best fighter of the last 30 years or he'd have been found wanting. Floyd was all about the money and not the legacy and neither he nor his fans should be trying to revise history after he's hung em up.

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          #24
          some of these guys were a bit old when floyd fought em, but still hands down floyd has a GREAT resume

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            #25
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

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            3 JMM wins isn't better than 1 clear win. It means you struggled so had rematches. Barrera wasn't prime either and they were both ranked highly P4P, lets also not forget that
            3 wins is better than one win cheating scales. Next!

            Jmm was PACs kryptonite and PAC and jmm fights would always be competitive that dont mean anything, certainly dfoint make fkloyd greater historicallyly when PAC beat him3 times if not scorecard error. Jmm said PAC was best of era. PAC didn't always try get things in his favour.
            PACs greater than Floyd and until the day beats GGG and beats PAC convincingly I dfont see that changing anytime soon

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              #26
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              3 wins is better than one win cheating scales. Next!

              Jmm was PACs kryptonite and PAC and jmm fights would always be competitive that dont mean anything, certainly dfoint make fkloyd greater historicallyly when PAC beat him3 times if not scorecard error. Jmm said PAC was best of era. PAC didn't always try get things in his favour.
              PACs greater than Floyd and until the day beats GGG and beats PAC convincingly I dfont see that changing anytime soon
              I like how you just delete and ignore what you can't argue.

              Where's your evidence that experts consider Pacquiao greater. I provided 2 sources with panels of experts voting Mayweather greater. Where's yours?

              Your or my opinion alone means nothing. Opinions combined do and Mayweather is viewed as the greater fighter.

              I know that's hard for you to understand in your little (now empty) Pac world.

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                #27
                Originally posted by SteveM
                That doesn't change he fought them when they weren't in their prime. Pac was in his prime in 2008 and that prime was a couple of levels above where he was in 2015. Sure Floyd was better in 2008 too but I think Pacs fall from his prime was greater than Floyd's.

                Whats more, Floyd saw weakness in Pac before the fight got made. There's a reason why top level boxers always speak about "the blueprint" . Now same deal with Golovkin, after Brook Jacobs was mentioning blueprint.

                Now after Jacobs many experts and other boxers talking about him being exposed and the blueprint is out.
                Now, if they are doing that after Golovkin ran over Brook and went neck and neck with Danny then how much more of a blueprint existed for a smart fighter like Floyd to study after Pac's losses to JMM and Bradley?

                Thing is, you come on here on a slow news day and seek agreement from others that Floyd's resume is immaculate - but if he'd fought those fighters in their primes one of two things would have happened >> either he'd be the undisputed best fighter of the last 30 years or he'd have been found wanting. Floyd was all about the money and not the legacy and neither he nor his fans should be trying to revise history after he's hung em up.
                Floyd and pacquaio had titles up to JMW, but pacquaio started 3 divisions lower so for Floyd to equal he would need to win titles at MW, SMW and LHW, how do you think he'd go fighting up in those divisions

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by larryxxx.
                  Mosley, Manny,Jmm Canelo were all top 10 p4p fighters and world champions...try again
                  What in your statement was a response to mine? I said they were past their prime. You know you can be past your prime and still in the p4p rankings lol

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                    #29
                    stop talking about floyd, he's retired!! beat everyone but not in a spectacular fashion for anyone to remember it by. #truth

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Keep living in fantasy land. Mayweather is widely considered greater than Pacquiao. Morales wasn't half the fighter he used to be when Pacquiao beat him. "Barrera had 8 wins" A fighter having 8 wins means he's prime now? All the JMM fights were either way fights. He's a step below Mayweather always has been.
                      no cuz 2010 pacquiao would of spanked mayweather, thats why floyd ducked him.

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