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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Stop making things up, generalising and being vague. Jmm said pac is greater than Floyd without a doubt. His exavpct words were PAC is without a doubt best in this era. Most Mexicans would agree. Considering the 2 Mexicans Floyd beat he cheated the scales either bloated or drained them.
    Is jmm classed as an expert. Roiach claimed you could make a case for Floyd being best of era as he's unbeaten but in sane breath says PAC would have beat Floyd with 2 good arms. So hardly a compliment
    Making things up and vague? That's all you've done in this thread. You have 1 opinion i provided 2 panels of experts that voted Mayweather greater. Roach didn't say there was a case, he flat out said Mayweather was the best of the era.

    There you go making claims with no evidence "most Mexicans would agree"

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    • hugh grant
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      #52
      Roach said pac with 2 arms would beat Floyd. Soi is basically saying PAC is best of era.
      Being unbeaten is no route to being best of an era considering he has lost in his career at least a couple or so times.
      But losing is not a barrier to being best of era anyway. Not taking risks !ike Floyd is a barrier. Cherry picking is a barrier. Floyd has out up many barrier to being the best that has nothing to do with many thinking he lost s few times or so.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-24-2017, 05:59 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Roach said pac with 2 arms would beat Floyd. Soi is basically saying PAC is best of era.
        Being unbeaten is no route to being best of an era.
        He said Mayweather was the best of the era. You're living in a fantasy world.

        "When Roach said Mayweather was the best of the era he didn't mean it, he meant Pacquiao was." - This is basically what you're saying.

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          #54
          Originally posted by larryxxx.

          beat everyone in this picture



          beat everyone in this picture



          beat both of them


          this is the who's who of boxing
          Dude ODLH was a part time fighter and many years past being in his prime.

          Mosely? Dude was just a shell of his peak self, yes he beat Margo but that don't mean much especially with the glove controversy he just had prior to entering the ring.

          JMM? Give me a ***ing break. He pulls a dude up two weigh divisions to fight at a catchweight that Floyd wouldn't honor at the scales.

          Cotto? ***ing dude was coming off two vicious beating from Margo and PAC. On top of that cotto was in major decline as a fighter.

          Canelo? Please dude was green AF at 22 years old and in his first major profile fight. Plus Floyd weight drained him big time and months before Floyd was claiming when he fights guys he doesn't need catchweights and that he wants to fight his opponents at their optimum weight. Bull**** claim.

          Hatton? Well that was prolly his only win against a prime fighter above 140. As it turns out Hatton wasn't as good as advertised, exciting yes but mainly hype. PAC sparked him in 2 rounds.

          PAC? Fights was five years to late and PAC was on a major decline when they fought. Even with that knowledge Floyd still fought a non engaging safety first fight to a very boring win.

          Floyds fights were all about timing and fighting certain fighers at the right time to maximize his winning chances.
          Last edited by boxinghead530; 05-24-2017, 06:31 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by boxinghead530
            Dude ODLH was a part time fighter and many years past being in his prime.

            Mosely? Dude was just a shell of his peak self, yes he beat Margo but that don't mean much especially with the glove controversy he just had prior to entering the ring.

            JMM? Give me a ***ing break. He pulls a dude up two weigh divisions to fight at a catchweight that Floyd wouldn't honor at the scales.

            Cotto? ***ing dude was coming off two vicious beating from Margo and PAC. On top of that cotto was in major decline as a fighter.

            Canelo? Please dude was green AF at 22 years old and in his first major profile fight. Plus Floyd weight drained him big time and months before Floyd was claiming when he fights guys he doesn't need catchweights and that he wants to fight his opponents at their optimum weight. Bull**** claim.

            Hatton? Well that was prolly his only win against a prime fighter above 140. As it turns out Hatton wasn't as good as advertised, exciting yes but mainly hype. PAC sparked him in 2 rounds.

            PAC? Fights was five years to late and was on a major decline when they fought. Even with that knowledge Floyd still fought a non engaging safety first fight to a very boring win.

            Floyds fights were all about timing and fighting certain fighers at the right time to maximize his winning chances.
            All those fighters were considered amongst the top 10 in the entire sport when Mayweather fought them. Great wins. Also add Corrales to the list.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Making things up and vague? That's all you've done in this thread. You have 1 opinion i provided 2 panels of experts that voted Mayweather greater. Roach didn't say there was a case, he flat out said Mayweather was the best of the era.

              There you go making claims with no evidence "most Mexicans would agree"

              Perhaps you should expand your reading, instead of sticking to a couple opinions (yahoo is your "expert panel") that support your argument.

              Just a couple samples of those who disagree with you.

              http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sport...la-hoya/story/
              http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...mannys-greater

              End of the day, they're probably both very close in everyone's ATG list floating ~top 20. Some may favor one over the other but one thing is true, they're both at the top echelon of boxing history and the more you try to discredit one, you end up discrediting the other.

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                #57
                Originally posted by madsweeney
                Perhaps you should expand your reading, instead of sticking to a couple opinions (yahoo is your "expert panel") that support your argument.

                Just a couple samples of those who disagree with you.

                http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sport...la-hoya/story/
                http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...mannys-greater

                End of the day, they're probably both very close in everyone's ATG list floating ~top 20. Some may favor one over the other but one thing is true, they're both at the top echelon of boxing history and the more you try to discredit one, you end up discrediting the other.
                Articles from 2012, 2014 and writer nobody has ever heard of. Fail.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Articles from 2012, 2014 and writer nobody has ever heard of. Fail.
                  More boxing fans in the world think PAC is greater. Is that still bugging you?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    More boxing fans in the world think PAC is greater. Is that still bugging you?
                    Where's the evidence? Causals thought that he was greater, most Pacquiao fans were casuals proven by the fact most of the Pacquiao fans on here left when Mayweather beat him. Boxing fans and experts consider Mayweather the best of the era, even Pacquiao's own coach.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by boxinghead530
                      Dude ODLH was a part time fighter and many years past being in his prime.

                      Mosely? Dude was just a shell of his peak self, yes he beat Margo but that don't mean much especially with the glove controversy he just had prior to entering the ring.

                      JMM? Give me a ***ing break. He pulls a dude up two weigh divisions to fight at a catchweight that Floyd wouldn't honor at the scales.

                      Cotto? ***ing dude was coming off two vicious beating from Margo and PAC. On top of that cotto was in major decline as a fighter.

                      Canelo? Please dude was green AF at 22 years old and in his first major profile fight. Plus Floyd weight drained him big time and months before Floyd was claiming when he fights guys he doesn't need catchweights and that he wants to fight his opponents at their optimum weight. Bull**** claim.

                      Hatton? Well that was prolly his only win against a prime fighter above 140. As it turns out Hatton wasn't as good as advertised, exciting yes but mainly hype. PAC sparked him in 2 rounds.

                      PAC? Fights was five years to late and PAC was on a major decline when they fought. Even with that knowledge Floyd still fought a non engaging safety first fight to a very boring win.

                      Floyds fights were all about timing and fighting certain fighers at the right time to maximize his winning chances.
                      You have an excuse for everything huh?

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