How would Canelo do against Sergio Marvilla Martinez?

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  • bigdunny1
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    #61
    Originally posted by muslimer12
    Williams, cintron, pavlick, Dzinziruk, heck even murray is better. Trouts best win is winning a close fight against a past prime cotto, and canelo barely won over him. What else has trout even done other then the cotto fight? lol where is he now? Niether canelo or charlo are elite and he lost to both. What are you blabbering about lol Sergio is beast and destroys canelo, thats it.
    So ONLY 5 people that Sergio ever beat are better then trout yet he's a bum? So the other 46 guys he beat are what? That's my point you dumb phuk he's better then virtually all the names on sergio resume and by the way only 2 names you mentioned can argue were better p-will and pavlik. And pavlik was a drunk and already beaten by Hopkins and personal life a mess at the time. But I will give you those 2 names.

    Cintron? He didn't beat him it was a draw and 2 he was not that good but you already contradict yourself because if you think he was great then you have to give credit to canelo who wiped him out didn't struggle to a draw with him. So which is it?

    Murray most feel flat out beat sergio. Dropped him and got robbed. Was never a world champ at any point in his career and struggled with rosado.

    Dzinziruk a Euro bum got exposed when he came to the US to face world class fighters won ONLY 1 of the 4 fights here then retired. He lost to journey man brian vera for phuk sake

    So your list is 5 names pwill beat him the first fight so he was 1-1, drunk pavlik, cintron struggled to a draw, murray everyone knows beat him, a euro nobody who was exposed in US. Trout in his prime undefeated world champ fresh off a win over a HOF the same guy who later destroyed sergio and funny he beat dawson the same guy who Dzinziruk beat THE GUY YOU JUST LISTED RE Tard. So Dzinziruk is great because his best win was dawson trout beat dawson and cotto and he sucks? SMH Trout never been knocked out and only loses were to world champ elite fighters and he's got better wins then half the guys you listed. Damn you spent all day just to come up with 5 names that you googled and have no clue who these guys are. I gave you the rope to hang yourself stop trying to talk boxing.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-11-2017, 11:54 PM.

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    • muslimer12
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      #62
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      So ONLY 5 people that Sergio ever beat are better then trout yet he's a bum? So the other 46 guys he beat are what? That's my point you dumb phuk he's better then virtually all the names on sergio resume and by the way only 2 names you mentioned can argue were better p-will and pavlik. And pavlik was a drunk and already beaten by Hopkins and personal life a mess at the time. But I will give you those 2 names.

      Cintron? He didn't beat him it was a draw and 2 he was not that good but you already contradict yourself because if you think he was great then you have to give credit to canelo who wiped him out didn't struggle to a draw with him. So which is it?

      Murray most feel flat out beat sergio. Dropped him and got robbed. Was never a world champ at any point in his career and struggled with rosado.

      Dzinziruk a Euro bum got exposed when he came to the US to face world class fighters won ONLY 1 of the 4 fights here then retired. He lost to journey man brian vera for phuk sake

      So your list is 5 names pwill beat him the first fight so he was 1-1, drunk pavlik, cintron struggled to a draw, murray everyone knows beat him, a euro nobody who was exposed in US. Trout in his prime undefeated world champ fresh off a win over a HOF the same guy who later destroyed sergio and funny he beat dawson the same guy who Dzinziruk beat THE GUY YOU JUST LISTED RE Tard. So Dzinziruk is great because his best win was dawson trout beat dawson and cotto and he sucks? SMH Trout never been knocked out and only loses were to world champ elite fighters and he's got better wins then half the guys you listed. Damn you spent all day just to come up with 5 names that you googled and have no clue who these guys are. I gave you the rope to hang yourself stop trying to talk boxing.
      Why do you always try to kick knowledge and fail lmao get over yourself lol Dzinz never got knocked down before sergio then got put on his ass and stopped. Anyone who is not an idiot or blind knows sergio beat cintron and twice williams you fool. Trout sucks and almost beat canelo. Even with the knockdown canelo still almost lost. Thats how bad he is looool Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point. you failed again kicking knowledge. now dip

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      • bojangles1987
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        #63
        He'd have serious problems, as most would with Sergio at his best. Sergio is very mobile, has excellent stamina, and his skill set matches well with Alvarez's weaknesses.

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        • bigdunny1
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          #64
          Originally posted by muslimer12
          Why do you always try to kick knowledge and fail lmao get over yourself lol Dzinz never got knocked down before sergio then got put on his ass and stopped. Anyone who is not an idiot or blind knows sergio beat cintron and twice williams you fool. Trout sucks and almost beat canelo. Even with the knockdown canelo still almost lost. Thats how bad he is looool Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point. you failed again kicking knowledge. now dip
          Dzinz was a bum who fought over seas against no names and exposed when he came to the us. who's biggest win trout also beat. And if you want to give Sergio a win over cintron even though he didn't win the fight then you have have to take away the Murray fight because most fans know he lost that fight. Can't have both you choose which one but be consistent either we go strictly off the record or by who fans think won. And for the last time neither guy was as good or have better win on their resume then trout he beat better fighters and never lost to journey men. You bringing up guys who lost to bums. And contradict yourself in previous posts saying canelo beat bums yet too ****** to know he beat cintron so you call him a bum when canelo does it but when sergio who technically didnt beat him and struggled does it hes a great fighter? DYCK HEAD PLEASE.

          Go create poll and ask everyone here who was the better fighter cintron, Murray, Dzinz or trout. Create 3 polls and see how ****** you will look with results. Arguing with a phuking rookie who don't know DKSAB. SMH
          Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-12-2017, 09:59 PM.

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          • John Locke
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            #65
            Surprised by how almost everyone has picked Maravilla. I think Canelo wins a UD, with a KD or two along the way. People looking at the Lara fight and thinking 'Maravilla has the same skillset as him and offers more offensively' are hugely mistaken, they fight nothing alike and Maravilla being a more offensive-minded fighter plays right into Canelo's hands.

            Maravilla was a very good fighter, but he was very fundamentally flawed and relied on his athleticism and reflexes a lot, he's not technically as good as somebody like Lara.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #66
              Originally posted by muslimer12
              Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point
              This is phuking embarrassing he beat cotto his biggest fight of his life at the time. only fight he would later have maybe bigger was canelo otherwise he's never been in a bigger fight and won. So cotto fight is either 1a or 1b biggest fight. Also he didn't win by a point he dominated cotto. Literally nothing you said is true. LMAO

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              • superfansaints
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                #67
                Canelo would beat Sergio because of the 150lb catchweight

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                • -Kev-
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                  #68
                  Canelo would **** him up come on.

                  Guy was knocked down by Williams, Pavlik, Macklin, Chavez Jr, Murray, and Cotto. You think Canelo won't pulverize prime Martinez?

                  Martinez hands down style would work for few styles, but not Canelo's. Canelo would absolutely demolish Martinez.

                  Canelo is too poised, patient and too good of a timer and too good of a combination puncher, too good of defense to lose to someone as defensively careless as Martinez. To beat Canelo you have to be defensively on point and make him come forward. Martinez did not bring that to the ring, he was so careless, hence the countless knockdowns.

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                  • Metho_4u
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                    #69
                    At his best, Sergio would give him a good fight because of movement, but chin? We'll Sergio didn't really have a solid one, thus I'd have to say canelo wins a good fight, by UD after knocking Martinez down 2-3 times

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by John Locke
                      Surprised by how almost everyone has picked Maravilla. I think Canelo wins a UD, with a KD or two along the way. People looking at the Lara fight and thinking 'Maravilla has the same skillset as him and offers more offensively' are hugely mistaken, they fight nothing alike and Maravilla being a more offensive-minded fighter plays right into Canelo's hands.

                      Maravilla was a very good fighter, but he was very fundamentally flawed and relied on his athleticism and reflexes a lot, he's not technically as good as somebody like Lara.
                      Counting all KD's official and unofficial, Martinez was KD'ed 3x by Cotto (1 more time in the 9th which was a terrible call by the ref calling it a KD when it clearly wasn't), 2x by Murray (one was robbed from Murray), Chavez Jr 1x, Macklin 1x, Pavlik 1x, Williams 1x.

                      Are people serious? Lol, if a guy can get knocked down that much, you better believe Canelo will do the same and do even worse things.

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