Wasn't the thread starter the guy that said Golovkin has more shot selection? When questioned, he said he had more shot selection because he dropped more people with different shots and that's the only way to count shot selection.
Originally posted by HeadShots
nope. Jacobs didn't have a single winning stat the whole fight. and he was downed. the exact opposite was the case in ward vs kov.
i wouldn't say Canelo is more skilled than GGG.
GGG has more shot selection.
GGG has better footwork (Even last night, Chavez looked to have better legs, Canelo was following, not cutting etc)
GGG has better offense, period.
GGG even has better defense by the #'s.
Now keep in mind, all these stats are GGG fighting top 10 and champions at 160.
Canelo is going in over his head.
Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
I don't know how anyone that has seen both fight can say Golovkin has more shot selection.
Originally posted by HeadShots
Show a right handed KD from body shots from Canelo.
Show me an uppercut KD from Canelo.
Show me a jab KD from Canelo.
Canelo has right hand head shot KO. GGG has that at 160
Canelo has left hook body shot KO. GGG has that at 160
Canelo has left hook head KO. GGG has that at 160
Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
How does that mean he has more shot selection?
Originally posted by HeadShots
that is the only definitive proof of shot selection.
every fighter can throw jabs, hooks, straights and uppercuts. but Deontay for example doesn't have a left hook.... cus it never drops anyone. he throws them tho. doesn't mean it's a good punch.
Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
You're seriously ******ed.
Dropping someone has nothing to do with having more shot selection.
Originally posted by HeadShots
if fighter A can drop world class competition with a variety of shots.
and fighter B can't.
then fighter A has a better selection of shots. period.
And hand speed and defense. Not just upper movement peep his hands they are picking shots off because he is very fundamentally sound. GGG has shyt defense and horrible head movement so he just eats shots. Canelo also better combination puncher. Also higher RING IQ, can set traps and make in fight adjustments. Get's hit WAYYYY less then GGG does despite fighting higher level opponents and fighting more rounds. GGG is a fastball pitcher. Sure he can hit the high 90's but when you face the best hitters they will adjust to your timing. Canelo has multiple pitches to keep a hitter guessing all night long.
golovkin doesn't throw his punches all at the same speed. He mixes up power and angles.
P4P GGG is not even the most skilled fighter Canelo has faced. He's definitely the biggest/strongest guy. But Cotto, Lara, Floyd, Mosley, Khan, Trout are all technically more skilled then GGG. If he can't get Canelo out of there and this becomes a boxing skill match GGG is going to get outclassed for 12 rounds.
And hand speed and defense. Not just upper movement peep his hands they are picking shots off because he is very fundamentally sound. GGG has shyt defense and horrible head movement so he just eats shots. Canelo also better combination puncher. Also higher RING IQ, can set traps and make in fight adjustments. Get's hit WAYYYY less then GGG does despite fighting higher level opponents and fighting more rounds. GGG is a fastball pitcher. Sure he can hit the high 90's but when you face the best hitters they will adjust to your timing. Canelo has multiple pitches to keep a hitter guessing all night long.
Set Traps? Against who? Khan? The guy that stepped traps all his life. A chinny Kirkland? A face first angulo?
Canelo is harder to hit clean. Canelo is bit more complete a fighter I think but he's a little slow with his feet and he's dealing with an offensive force and a natural MW in Golovkin.
P4P GGG is not even the most skilled fighter Canelo has faced. He's definitely the biggest/strongest guy. But Cotto, Lara, Floyd, Mosley, Khan, Trout are all technically more skilled then GGG. If he can't get Canelo out of there and this becomes a boxing skill match GGG is going to get outclassed for 12 rounds.
nope. GGG is the most skilled offensive fighter.
this is a fact.
none of those guys p4p has better offense than GGG. Period.
Cotto is 1 handed. Lara is a runner with low power. Trout is average with low power. Mayweather has feather dusters. Mosley was old as hell and small. lmao @ khan. you're an idiot.
golovkin doesn't throw his punches all at the same speed. He mixes up power and angles.
neither does canelo he baits you with different speeds and where they come from how you think he knocked out Khan. Broke him to body and then set him up with a fake slow punch downstairs to force Khan to freeze/drop his hands then lightning fast right to the face no time to react. Canelo mixes it up he's just better and faster at it then GGG. GGG just hits harder but he's not as sharp, skilled or fast.
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