Who will be the bigger star: Canelo or Joshua?

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  • alexguiness
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    #111
    Joshua - he's a HW and so humble...

    Canelo is Ginger, which works against him, even in Mexico.

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    • Canelo and GGG
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      #112
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Yeah, because he turned pro at 16

      I'm not crapping on Canelo, but he just isn't as big a star as Joshua
      His bigger money maker for his team and himself thats enough for him i guess

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      • PrBoxing88
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        #113
        ATM Canelo is the bigger cash cow..

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        • Death_Adder
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          #114
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          how is the fight everyone wants to see? Multiple surveys were done on Sky and Klitschko and Fury fights were well above Wilder on all surveys because no one knows who da *** he is.

          DW can get it too, but does he really want it? He keeps saying he'll fight this and that guy and then he signs to fight Wawzdryk or Szpilka or Arreola.
          Who gives a damn about the UK (no offense)! We're talking about the US, where the real money is at. AJ aready fought Klitschko, and you called Fury a retired fighter. So Wilder is the fight that needs to be made. But has AJ called him out? Nope. Did Wilder's name come up once in his post fight interview? Nope.

          At the moment Canelo is the bigger star. But as soon as AJ fights in the States, the ******* media and ******* ESPN will be all over the fact that he's black and a muzzie.

          And NO he hasn't fought better competition than Canelo.

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          • bigdunny1
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            #115
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            I don't remember anyone crying for Trout or Chavez jr Mayweather yes, Cotto fight represented two fighters who didn't want to fight the guy we wanted him to fight.

            Joshua has 19 fights, not 50 like Canelo.
            Then you just a boxing newbie because everyone cried for him to fight trout after trout beat cotto. And where you been for the last 5 years during the rivalry between Chavez and canelo the demand for that fight has been over half a decade with weight being the only thing holding that fight back. And canelo is only 26 turned pro skipping amateurs at what 15? His first 30 fights were basically his version of amateurs. Joshua turned pro already a man with experience in amateurs and olympics he shouldnt need 30 fights before he faces someone with a pulse hes pushing 30 years old you idiot. Canelo younger then joshua and already fought higher competition stop making excuses for a 27 year old fighting bums until this weekend when he finally fought a washed up 41 year old. He hasn't fought the best. Canelo has. Every fight fans have asked for he has delivered only exception being GGG who literally fights nobody and wasn't even the same weight as canelo.

            Joshua hasn't yet fought the top guys in his own weight class. Wilder, fury, ortiz, ect. Struggled with the same old klitcho coming off a loss because fury easily beat him 2 years ago and who Jennings almost beat. The same Jennings that ortiz destroyed. Only an idiot can't admit canelo resume is better this ain't a debate it's a fact he faced the better fighters.
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-05-2017, 07:33 AM.

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              #116
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              The price was 65 and it did less than 300k according to all sources. Less than 20million on PPV.
              Dummy what made more money joshua/molina or canelo/smith? What will make more money joshua/Klitcko or Canelo/Chavez?

              If you cant give a straight answer to that then shut up and let the adults talk. Do you realize that UK PPVs cost less then 1/3 the price of US PPVs? Joshua has to sell over 3X the UK ppvs to match Canelo. Canelo/Khan generated more PPV money then Joshua/Klitchko and that fight isnt even half of the PPVs they expecting for the Chavez fight this weekend. Grab a calculator and do the math or go back to grade school. Canelo smith did more then DOUBLE Joshua molina fight FACT and canelo Chavez will make double to triple the klitchko fight FACT. That's not opinion that's just math.
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-05-2017, 07:50 AM.

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              • LacedUp
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                #117
                Originally posted by Death_Adder
                Who gives a damn about the UK (no offense)! We're talking about the US, where the real money is at. AJ aready fought Klitschko, and you called Fury a retired fighter. So Wilder is the fight that needs to be made. But has AJ called him out? Nope. Did Wilder's name come up once in his post fight interview? Nope.

                At the moment Canelo is the bigger star. But as soon as AJ fights in the States, the ******* media and ******* ESPN will be all over the fact that he's black and a muzzie.

                And NO he hasn't fought better competition than Canelo.
                Who gives a damn about the UK when talking about Joshua's next opponent?

                Was that a serious question?

                FYI the money is clearly in the UK.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Then you just a boxing newbie because everyone cried for him to fight trout after trout beat cotto. And where you been for the last 5 years during the rivalry between Chavez and canelo the demand for that fight has been over half a decade with weight being the only thing holding that fight back. And canelo is only 26 turned pro skipping amateurs at what 15? His first 30 fights were basically his version of amateurs. Joshua turned pro already a man with experience in amateurs and olympics he shouldnt need 30 fights before he faces someone with a pulse hes pushing 30 years old you idiot. Canelo younger then joshua and already fought higher competition stop making excuses for a 27 year old fighting bums until this weekend when he finally fought a washed up 41 year old. He hasn't fought the best. Canelo has. Every fight fans have asked for he has delivered only exception being GGG who literally fights nobody and wasn't even the same weight as canelo.

                  Joshua hasn't yet fought the top guys in his own weight class. Wilder, fury, ortiz, ect. Struggled with the same old klitcho coming off a loss because fury easily beat him 2 years ago and who Jennings almost beat. The same Jennings that ortiz destroyed. Only an idiot can't admit canelo resume is better this ain't a debate it's a fact he faced the better fighters.
                  You're right, I just started following boxing.

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    Dummy what made more money joshua/molina or canelo/smith? What will make more money joshua/Klitcko or Canelo/Chavez?

                    If you cant give a straight answer to that then shut up and let the adults talk. Do you realize that UK PPVs cost less then 1/3 the price of US PPVs? Joshua has to sell over 3X the UK ppvs to match Canelo. Canelo/Khan generated more PPV money then Joshua/Klitchko and that fight isnt even half of the PPVs they expecting for the Chavez fight this weekend. Grab a calculator and do the math h0e or go back to grade school. Canelo smith did more then DOUBLE Joshua molina fight and canelo Chavez will make double to triple the klitchko fight. That's not opinion that's just math.
                    We shall see. According to sources, AJ vs Klitschko did about 65million USD.

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      We shall see. According to sources, AJ vs Klitschko did about 65million USD.
                      How many UK PPVs did the fight sell? I heard maybe 1.5m they are hoping they hit that number.

                      1.5m X 20 = 30m

                      So you are telling me you heard that he sold over 3m PPVS to make 65m? Get the phuk out of here with fairy tales and lies.

                      Canelo/Chavez will do anywhere from 800k to 1m ppv buys

                      Let's take the low end
                      800k X 70 = 56m

                      Thats just ppv not including live gate, tv deals, ect. For god sake shut the phuk up and take your L. Fact canelo/Chavez will generate more money even the biggest joshua fans concede this point but your re tard azz still arguing math and facts. Joshua set records in the UK but nowhere near the PPV top fighters in the US generate. That's where the money is.
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-05-2017, 08:38 AM.

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