Roy Jones Jr: More Than an Athlete

[robertzimmerman]

I think McClellan would have no problem going into a shoot-out and I think would have had a good chance of knocking RJJ the **** out.

Possibly.

Him and Benn were warriors.

Roy had a huge advantage in speed though.

We know Benn would have rushed him. There's no doubt about that. He'd have thrown the kitchen sink at him.

I think Gerald would have been a bit more composed though.

[No Tomorrow]

Possibly.

Him and Benn were warriors.

Roy had a huge advantage in speed though.

We know Benn would have rushed him. There's no doubt about that. He'd have thrown the kitchen sink at him.

I think Gerald would have been a bit more composed though.

Absolutely.

[GhostofDempsey]

Dude, Jones Jr.'s performance against Reggie Johnson (who was more talented than DeValle or Calzaghe) was arguably the most impressive performance of his career.

Johnson was a good boxer (though I think Calzaghe was slightly better) but every tine he stepped up he lost. Collins was his biggest win. He was also near the end of his career when they fought.

[No Tomorrow]

Johnson was a good boxer (though I think Calzaghe was slightly better) but every tine he stepped up he lost. Collins was his biggest win. He was also near the end of his career when they fought.

I think prime for prime Johnson edges out Calzaghe (skill wise and in a hypothetical match).

I think Reggie Johnson deserved the win over James Toney due to the knock down in the second round (making it 114-113, Reggie).

As you mentioned he beat Steve Collins.

The Lamar Parks win was a very solid win. Lamar Parks was a very good contender and was scheduled to face McClellan (March '94) until he found out he had HIV.

Losing to John David Jackson (who was a terrific light middleweight and solid middleweight) by a close decision isn't that much of a blemish.

Also I cannot confirm because I have not watched them, but from what I've gathered Johnson was shafted by the judges in both fights against Jorge Fernando Castro (both SD losses in Argentina).

The win over William Guthrie was a decent win at the time due to Guthrie's trajectory and it being for the IBF Light Heavyweight title and it is such a highlight reel KO for Johnson.

I also have not seen the fight against Antonio Tarver so I wonder if that SD loss has any thing worth investigating.

So like I said Reggie deserved the W against Toney, perhaps deserved the W over Castro both times, lost a 115-113 type of fight to John David Jackson and lost a SD to Tarver (after losing to Roy Jones, Jr. 2 1/2 years prior)

All in all I think he had a pretty solid career and it was evident by just watching him that he had a very solid skill set so to see the way Roy was able to just dominate him was ridiculously impressive.

IMO, it is Roy's finest performance due to the level of opposition he was facing and how effectively dominant of a performance it was. Roy (from my memory) won every round, knocked Reggie down twice (making it a 120-106 fight) and landed 273 of 520 punches (52%) compared to Johnson landing 49 of 380 (13%). That's insane.

[j.razor]

What 5 rounds did you give Hopkins?

I didn't use harold lederman's card, that's for sure....I went back to the fight to give you the rounds but man this fight was hard to score. This fight was close. Bernard was working more than Roy and on the inside but used head head a few times....Roy had some good shots, even hurt Bernard with a body shot and Bernard also hurt Roy with a body shot but Roy's was harder.

[Tomjas]

Loved Roy but thought at the time (and hindsight is 20/20) that he should have retired after beating Ruiz as he was in the mix for GOAT at that time.

Took the fight with Tarver for ego (and possibly money) and it was blatantly obvious that he had lost a lot during the first fight then the rest is just sad.

Unfortunately, you see his type of demise all the time in boxing and other sports where once greats hold on after their eyes, feet, reflexes have gone and dont have the solid fundamentals to fall back on

[Elroy The Great]

athlete + commentator

[Bogotazo]

I didn't use harold lederman's card, that's for sure....I went back to the fight to give you the rounds but man this fight was hard to score. This fight was close. Bernard was working more than Roy and on the inside but used head head a few times....Roy had some good shots, even hurt Bernard with a body shot and Bernard also hurt Roy with a body shot but Roy's was harder.

Surely not close enough to think Bernard could have won the fight. I don't think anyone can give Bernard five rounds.

[joseph5620]

If we are going to ignore Jones inability to fight the best and concentrate on his skills alone even they are far lower than other atgs. That's the reason he started getting kod the moment his natural reflexes gave way.

The man had no understanding if defence, distance and how to survive. The myth of him being this supreme athlete is just that,a myth.

He was a great specimen no doubt, natural ability through the roof but the greatest athletes have more than that.

You've already tried to claim Khan is better than Crawford. Now this.

I'm convinced that you're just really ******.

[Jimmy 23]

I had Roy beating Hopkins by only 2 rounds in the first fight...James Toney was just too slow for Roy.

you're blind idiot