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  • #61
    Originally posted by original zero View Post
    If Wladimir had won, he would have fought Glazkov next. So he wasn't the one breaking his promise to the IBF, Fury was.

    As for Joshua, Hearn can claim all he wants that he has to drop a belt because you can't fight two mandatories at once, but that's bull****. Federal courts have already ruled that you can't be stripped for fighting a mandatory. The organizations have an agreed upon rotation.
    ... Thanks... for the knowledge you shared here...

    *later edit: Green K sent!
    Last edited by MDPopescu; 04-22-2017, 08:30 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by original zero View Post
      You're still refusing to name a name. Post after post you're ducking and dodging. If Wilder's resume is so terrible, then please name a current heavyweight champion that has better scalps on his resume than Wilder does. You can't.

      You're embarrassing yourself. It shouldn't take five posts to answer the question.
      I tell you what make a explanation thread titled "DEONTAY WILDER HAS THE BEST RESUME " and see how it goes for you ,i'll even join in on the mugging you will recieve on here ,probably by some Wilder fans as well

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      • #63
        I hope klit knocks him out

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        • #64
          Originally posted by original zero View Post
          It's not my fault if you don't pay attention to the sport. If you want my spreadsheets of every purse bid from the last 30 years, you can hire me as a consultant for $100 an hour. Otherwise, start paying attention. I just gave you very recent examples. If you weren't aware that the WBC was the most valuable belt and the WBO is the least valuable belt, I'm not sure what sport you've been watching your whole life. Unless you just discovered boxing yesterday.

          The WBO welterweight title has been Bob Arum's personal toy for 15 years. It's held by whoever the **** Arum wants it held by. But when Mayweather was WBC champion, which belt was making more money? When Mayweather and Manny fought, which organization's champion won? (Also worth mentioning, WBC is undefeated in heavyweight unification btw).

          When Mayweather retired and vacated both belts, which vacant title had the most interest? 800,000 watched the WBO vacancy be filled. 3.5 million watched the WBC vacancy be filled.

          As for Canelo, he was forced to fight for a WBOgus belt because he was scared of GGG and Haymon had all the real 154 titles locked up. This is what happens when you recognize more titles. It allows fighters like Canelo to find an easy belt to hide behind.

          I gave you recent, exact, purse bid figures. Has nothing to do with my feelings or assumptions. Purse bids are public information. It's very easy to track what the championships are worth. If you're new to the sport or don't pay attention to the sport, that isn't my problem.
          Okay so what you really are saying is have no data to support your conclusion. That's what I assumed. Now I have proof of my assumption unlike you.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
            Bro. I dig you and hope your game is doing well, BUT you don't know sh-t about the IBF.

            The IBF will strip a mfer quicker than any other abc group out there. They stripped Fury mad quick after he beat Klitschko so Charles Martin and that broken knee cap or whatever guy could fight for the vacant title on some undercard iirc lol. The IBF belt is the hot potato belt.
            game has left me out of sync with reality! honestly don't normally follow whats going on with the sanctioning bodies - bores me ****less most of the time.

            btw, love the sig.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by rooq View Post
              honestly don't normally follow whats going on with the sanctioning bodies - bores me ****less most of the time.

              btw, love the sig.
              Thanks & yea I feel you with that. Its perverse that so much of the boxing news cycle is about these corrupt abc groups & part of being a knowledgeable fan is knowing all the bs with these groups rules & mandatories & their nutty rankings & so on & so forth lol.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                I tell you what make a explanation thread titled "DEONTAY WILDER HAS THE BEST RESUME " and see how it goes for you ,i'll even join in on the mugging you will recieve on here ,probably by some Wilder fans as well
                Another post from you with nothing but ducking and dodging. If Deontay's resume is so horrible, you should have been able to instantly name a current heavyweight champion with better wins than he has. But you can't.

                You're not fooling anybody. Every post you make without naming name is an implicit acceptance that I'm correct.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  Okay so what you really are saying is have no data to support your conclusion. That's what I assumed. Now I have proof of my assumption unlike you.
                  hahahaha how ****ing ****** are you? i gave you the recent data several posts ago. if you want me to give away proprietary spreadsheets that i've developed for decades and use as an integral part of my consulting business, you can pay me what i would charge anybody else.

                  you're the only one making an assumption here. you're the only one that doesn't have proof. and apparently, you're the only one who pays so little attention to the sport that you never noticed which championships were most prominent.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                    Thanks & yea I feel you with that. Its perverse that so much of the boxing news cycle is about these corrupt abc groups & part of being a knowledgeable fan is knowing all the bs with these groups rules & mandatories & their nutty rankings & so on & so forth lol.
                    it's not our fault that you're lazy and ******.

                    basketball fans are aware of which teams are in which division. which divisions are in which conference. what the rules of the sport are. how the teams are seeded. how it is decided who plays who. what the brackets are and who you are mandated to play next if you want to compete for the championship, etc.

                    no different than boxing.

                    you choose to ignore the championships and that is your right. but the entire sport revolves around them. 99% of big fights are based on jockeying for position in the rankings or to gain a title shot or a title.

                    it's like saying, i'm a basketball fan, but i don't recognize the NBA. or the eastern conference or western conference. or the playoffs. or the finals. or the lottery. or the draft.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      hahahaha how ****ing ****** are you? i gave you the recent data several posts ago. if you want me to give away proprietary spreadsheets that i've developed for decades and use as an integral part of my consulting business, you can pay me what i would charge anybody else.

                      you're the only one making an assumption here. you're the only one that doesn't have proof. and apparently, you're the only one who pays so little attention to the sport that you never noticed which championships were most prominent.
                      Ahhh more silly name calling over the internet cuz you have no logical defense of your unproven opinion. You are a bad mofo ain't ya lol.

                      The bottom line is you said almost nothing of substance in that post you are talking about. Almost everything you said was some silly highly biased bs that doesn't matter to what we are talking about.

                      All the titles are bs when deciding who's the best guy or the most highly paid guy. The Champion has nothing to do with which belt you hold. This isn't that difficult a concept to grasp if you rationally consider the facts.

                      I will say after looking at who's the #1 guy in each division that the IBF is the least held belt among #1 guys (they are tied for 3rd if you go by TBRB rankings or 4th if you go by Boxrec rankings, I don't put much weight into Fat Dan or Ring ratings anymore, but I suspect they have similar #1 guys anyway). And the WBO & WBC are tied for the most held belts of the #1 guy (tied for first with the TBRB rankings & tield for first with the WBA with the Boxrec rankings).

                      As far as looking at the most well paid champions that's a stat that would take far more time to look into, but looking at the names of who has which titles I have no reason to think the results conclude anything like you are suggesting with the WBC being the belt that clearly matters the most. Just look at three of the highest paid guys in the sport today, Manny, Canelo & Joshua & there isn't a WBC belt in sight of those guys.

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