Comments Thread For: Hearn Admits Anthony Joshua Could Be Forced To Drop IBF Belt

[Eff Pandas]

it's not our fault that you're lazy and ******.

You don't even seem to be able to logically argue your opinion so you calling me lazy & ****** is comical at best.

basketball fans are aware of which teams are in which division. which divisions are in which conference. what the rules of the sport are. how the teams are seeded. how it is decided who plays who. what the brackets are and who you are mandated to play next if you want to compete for the championship, etc.

no different than boxing.

you choose to ignore the championships and that is your right. but the entire sport revolves around them. 99% of big fights are based on jockeying for position in the rankings or to gain a title shot or a title.

Again you calling me a dummy when you are bringing up NBA basketball where the cream rises to the top every year no matter whats going on (outside of a strike or something) in comparison to the clusterf#ck of boxing is rich.

I'm done with you man. You might be ******ed or the best troll on the site idk which.

[original zero]

Ahhh more silly name calling over the internet cuz you have no logical defense of your unproven opinion. You are a bad mofo ain't ya lol.

No, I'm calling you ****** and lazy because you're blatantly ignoring a logical defense of a proven position. WBC titles are more valuable than WBO titles. The fact that you're even dis*****g this shows you know absolutely nothing about how this sport operates.

There is a pay-per-view tonight with *three* WBO "world" title fights. How many people will be buying this PPV? Almost nobody. Why are the fights on PPV? Because no TV network was interested in the fights. Would this happen if it were three WBC world championship fights? Oh hell no. Meanwhile, a WBC *eliminator* headlines a big show on Showtime.

Just as a recent purse bid for the WBC *interim* heavyweight title went for more money than the WBO *world* heavyweight title.

The WBO heavyweight title wasn't even shown live in the US last time and may not be shown at all next time. Who really recognizes the WBO heavyweight title as the true heavyweight championship of the world?

Nobody.

Some might debate WBC vs. WBA, or even throw in IBF since the WBA has their three champion horse****, but the WBO? The only person on the planet suggesting the WBC and WBO are equals is you.

The majority of WBO champions are controlled by Bob Arum. It's not the championship of the world. It's the championship of Top Rank.

The WBC has 100,000 followers on Twitter. The WBO has 40,000.

The WBC president has 300,000 followers on Twitter. The WBO president has 4,000.

You live in a small boxing nerd bubble pretending anybody gives a **** about the lineal title. Around the world, the WBC belt is recognized as the pinnacle of achievement in the sport of boxing.

The WBO belt is recognized as barely a world title, a 4th rate title at that, for Top Rank fighters to hide behind as Top Rank slowly becomes irrelevant. And a belt for 4th rate UK fighters who can't get a real belt because they're not with Eddie Hearn.

[original zero]

Again you calling me a dummy when you are bringing up NBA basketball where the cream rises to the top every year no matter whats going on

The cream of the NBA rises to the top just as the cream of the boxing orgs rise to the top.

There are plenty of basketball leagues, but the NBA is so head and shoulders above the others that there is no confusion over who is best able to declare a world champion.

Things are not as clear in boxing since it's an individual sport and a promoter can just go hide behind a minor league and try to turn it into a major.

But just because the distance between the #1 league in boxing and the #4 league in boxing isn't as great as it is in basketball doesn't mean there isn't still a big difference.

You choose to lump all the boxing leagues together because you're lazy and uneducated. That's not my problem. It's not my fault you don't know anything about how the sport operates.

Almost every fight you watch is taking place because of the major bodies and their rankings. If you don't care about why people are fighting each other, that's fine, but don't act like it's unreasonable for people who follow a sport to also follow why things are happening.

[aboutfkntime]

IBF doesn't allow step aside deals.




Doesn't matter what the IBF would rather have. The rules are the rules. The IBF can't break the rules just because breaking the rules would make them more money.


How are so many of you completely unaware of how this sport operates?

who gives a fk what the IBF want/think ?

their belt is becoming worthless because their rankings suck

they passed up Klitschko or Fury, for Glazkov or Martin

EVERYONE can see that was absurd

oh, except you

#rulesdoe

[aboutfkntime]

Thanks & yea I feel you with that. Its perverse that so much of the boxing news cycle is about these corrupt abc groups & part of being a knowledgeable fan is knowing all the bs with these groups rules & mandatories & their nutty rankings & so on & so forth lol.

exactly !!


#rulesdoe

[original zero]

who gives a fk what the IBF want/think ?

not saying you should. i'd be fine with everyone ignoring every organization besides the wbc. then we'll have one champion per divison.

their belt is becoming worthless because their rankings suck

little more complicated than that. their rankings are the fairest and most honest. but stars dont want fair and honest. stars want special treatment.

so the IBF is the best way to get your title shot enforced, but once you are a champion, youd much rather have a different belt so title shots wont be as strictly enforced.

i agree with you that the belt is losing value. just like fans slowly realized the WBA three champion nonsense meant a WBA title was inferior, fans will slowly realize top fighters are always ditching the IBF and that it's inferior as well.

which just separates the WBC even further from the rest of the pack.

[aboutfkntime]

not saying you should. i'd be fine with everyone ignoring every organization besides the wbc. then we'll have one champion per divison.

little more complicated than that. their rankings are the fairest and most honest. but stars dont want fair and honest. stars want special treatment.

so the IBF is the best way to get your title shot enforced, but once you are a champion, youd much rather have a different belt so title shots wont be as strictly enforced.

i agree with you that the belt is losing value. just like fans slowly realized the WBA three champion nonsense meant a WBA title was inferior, fans will slowly realize top fighters are always ditching the IBF and that it's inferior as well.

which just separates the WBC even further from the rest of the pack.

the WBC have been riddled with bribery and corruption

ANY bunch of fools could rule alone

[aboutfkntime]

So which current heavyweight champion has better wins than Deontay has?

Stop stalling. Name a name and explain.

Klitschko, and Fury !!

the TWO guys who got passed over for Glazkov and Martin

#theIBFdoe
#rulesdoe

[original zero]

Klitschko, and Fury !!

the TWO guys who got passed over for Glazkov and Martin

#theIBFdoe
#rulesdoe

neither are a current heavyweight champion. please learn how to read.

[original zero]

the WBC have been riddled with bribery

you're lying. it's the only one of the major bodies that hasn't had a major bribery scandal.

even sulaiman's harshest critics would admit the WBC was the only org that wouldn't sell rankings.

sulaiman was independently wealthy and wasn't going to risk his life's dream of ruling boxing for low level $2,000 bribes to rank an unknown super flyweight.

wba and ibf were selling rankings all day long.

the head of the wba's bribing scheme was publicly outed by arum, so the wba was forced to fire him.

so he founded the wbo.