Better Resume and Why: Andre Ward or Sven Ottke

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  • just the facts
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    #31
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    wards is better but its still seriously overrated. lets dissect it a bit, wheres the great wins? he beat cobra by 1 round, a fighter who has his limitations. kessler was never tht great and not the same after joe dealt with him. dawson got sparked by the pimp in 1 round, barreras useless, abraham was a stiff useless plodder. he fought one top opponent in kovalev and most thought he lost. thats some stellar cv is it?
    Again, due to your inability to view anything even remotely related to Andre Ward with even a sliver of objectivity, your OPINION means less than nothing.

    BTW, I'm still waiting for you to name your source for the post you made calling Ward a wife beater. I hate to think you're the type of low life scum bag who would post something like that with no proof whatsoever.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #32
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      Just enjoy trolling bro


      Lol


      Name 5 fighters with better resumes then ward. ..you can't

      No need for the **** rhetoric
      Five fighters with better resumes?

      Pac
      Roman Gonzalez
      Canelo
      Cotto
      Klitschko

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      • j.razor
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        #33
        Originally posted by finitoxdinamita
        better comparison would be ottke and calzaghe
        ^^^^true^^^^

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        • alexguiness
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          #34
          Sven takes Fraud to school with extra milk.

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          • j0zef
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            #35
            You insulted Ward, which means the very little semblance of logic that pug possesses went out of the window.

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            • Mukuro
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              #36
              I think Kessler and Froch set Ward apart from Ottke. I don't think anyone Ottke fought was as good as those two at 168.

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              • BlakBread904
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                #37
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Five fighters with better resumes?

                Pac
                Roman Gonzalez
                Canelo
                Cotto
                Klitschko
                3 of those guys are in the twilight of their careers.

                nice try

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BlakBread904
                  3 of those guys are in the twilight of their careers.

                  nice try
                  And Ward is not in the twilight of his career? He's got one or two fights left, tops.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    ottke for sure. 21 title defenses. no controversies like ward. super six made people overrate 168. it was thought of as a trash division but then everyone beat each other and what talent! some of the slowest and stiffest guys ive ever seen and the type of guys the slick brigade always bashes are now held up as great wins...if jacobs, lemieux, saunders, etc...all beat each other would that make them better fighters and the division good?
                    That's funny because back in 2010 you used to say that 168 was "elite" and named Dirrell, Abraham, Kessler, Bute etc as "elite" fighters.

                    That was mainly when Froch was on the rise and you liked him because it was anti Calzaghe but then Froch became anti Golovkin so now you hate him so you've changed your mind and now it's "trash".

                    Agenda's can turn divisions from elite to trash in an instant.

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                    • BlakBread904
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      And Ward is not in the twilight of his career? He's got one or two fights left, tops.
                      He's not pushing 40 like Pac and Wlad, nor has he been through multiple wars like Cotto.

                      Nice try.

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