Comments Thread For: IBF: Indongo Must Face Lipinets Next, No Crawford Unification

[-Kev-]

Sounds good to me. Both guys would get mauled by Crawford now. I like the idea of each staking a step-up in this next fight (by fighting each other), then going on to unify w/ Bud. Plus it adds more legitimacy to the winner, and makes him a better fight for Crawford's resume.

I think Lipinets has to prove himself a little more, Indongo now has Troyanovsky and Burns. So he did step up already, this is really a step up fight for Lipinets, and more of a "confirmation" fight for Indongo. Well it's really just a mando, but looking at it from a pov that who's stepping up here, it's def no Indongo, he already stepped up.

[Redd Foxx]

I think Lipinets has to prove himself a little more, Indongo now has Troyanovsky and Burns. So he did step up already, this is really a step up fight for Lipinets, and more of a "confirmation" fight for Indongo. Well it's really just a mando, but looking at it from a pov that who's stepping up here, it's def no Indongo, he already stepped up.

The way I'm looking at it is; if Indongo fights Crawford right now, no one gives Crawford respect for the win. If Indongo beats a solid guy in Lipinets, he becomes a more valuable win for Crawford.

But, I also happen to think pretty highly of Lipinets. I think he's a great fighter but no one here talks about him so maybe a win over him doesn't have much value with the fans as it does for me.

I do agree with you though, that Indongo had some more than Sergey at this point.

[Tom Cruise]

The way I'm looking at it is; if Indongo fights Crawford right now, no one gives Crawford respect for the win. If Indongo beats a solid guy in Lipinets, he becomes a more valuable win for Crawford.

But, I also happen to think pretty highly of Lipinets. I think he's a great fighter but no one here talks about him so maybe a win over him doesn't have much value with the fans as it does for me.

I do agree with you though, that Indongo had some more than Sergey at this point.

I think Indongo performed well enough vs Troyanovsky and Burns that people would give Crawford credit. I certainly would, especially if he dominates or gets the KO.

I dont even think Burns looked that bad vs Indongo, he was just shut down in everything he tried to do. Couldnt deal with the reach when he was backing up, couldnt press the action because (according to Ricky himself) he was afraid of Indongos power and counters. JI is a good fighter.

[Redd Foxx]

people would give Crawford credit.

I can only hope. I'm not a hardcore Crawford fan or anything but I do think he's a real talent who gets snubbed around here for some inexplicable reason. People who praised Postol have now decided he's lower than garbage, and they're doing it purely to discredit Crawford. They act as if the Gamboa win was somehow a negative and say Bud was "exposed" there. Even if a person doesn't think it's a great win, it was still seen as a competitive fight before it took place, but is somehow criminal now.

I've got the sense that the same crowd will write off Indongo after Crawford beats him but, when it comes down to it, I suppose a W over Sergey Lipinets wouldn't change that either.

[Ray*]

The problem is that the IBF is again letting rules come before whats good for boxing. Just like with Fury who was stripped because he had a rematch clause with the greatest HW of the last decade and didnt want to pass that up to fight Charles Martin.

I like that they stick to their rules but its pretty clear they need amending.

Problem is they likely have no desire to because unifications arent in their interest.

I understand, but it's not like Indongo and crawford are in negotiation for the fight next. Indongo and crawford can fight if they both win their next fights.

[original zero]

Isn't the IBF always the organization that messes up unification fights? I always see them c*ckblocking unification fights every time they could.

No. The IBF is the most pro-unification of any of the organizations. They're the only one that specifically states in their rules that unification takes priority over a mandatory.

Which is why the unification just took place. But now the mandatory is overdue. You can't skip the mandatory on the hope of another unification. Crawford has a fight scheduled. Clear the IBF mandatory and then unify with the winner of the Crawford fight.

[original zero]

The problem is that the IBF is again letting rules come before whats good for boxing. Just like with Fury who was stripped because he had a rematch clause with the greatest HW of the last decade and didnt want to pass that up to fight Charles Martin.

Fury was a mandatory and had no obligation to give a rematch clause. He had a guaranteed title shot without a rematch clause. He sold Klitschko a rematch clause because he didn't think he was going to win.

The IBF mandatory was overdue and Klitschko-Fury was sanctioned on the condition the winner would face the IBF mandatory. Both fighters promised the IBF the winner would fight the mandatory, then they hid a rematch clause from the IBF to trick them into sanctioning the fight.

IBF had no choice but to strip Fury for refusing to fight the overdue mandatory.

And Charles Martin wasn't the mandatory. It was Glazkov. Blame main events.

[MDPopescu]

No. The IBF is the most pro-unification of any of the organizations. They're the only one that specifically states in their rules that unification takes priority over a mandatory.

Which is why the unification just took place. But now the mandatory is overdue. You can't skip the mandatory on the hope of another unification. Crawford has a fight scheduled. Clear the IBF mandatory and then unify with the winner of the Crawford fight.

^^^ This............................

[g27region]

Indongo has the wrong style for Lipinets. He has huge reach and speed advantage plus he's awkward

It'd be better to feed Lipinets to Indongo to make that scalp more fat for Crawford's resume. That would make sense

[Mr. Luthor]

its a pretty simple rule. You have to request the unification BEFORE a mandatory is ordered. Once its ordered, then thats that. And nobody has requested a unification.

The nerve of the IBF to actually follow their rules. for some reason that really seems to bother people here.......

So your position is that he was supposed to request another unification in the 48 hour window he had after beating Burns before they ordered the mandatory? You truly believe he and his team had time to come to any preliminary agreements with Crawford in that amount of time? Or are you saying that Indongo was supposed to be in negotiations with Crawford while training for Burns and while Crawford is preparing to fight Diaz?

Nothing wrong with following rules but Indongo, or any other champion, should be allowed to supersede a mandatory for a unification bout. Not allowing this reduces the possibility of an undisputed champion and robs fans of the opportunity to see the best fight the best.