Comments Thread For: Memo Expects Canelo To Be HEAVIER Than Chavez on Fight Night

[Beercules]

Showtime via ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...tko-10th-round

"By fight night, Alvarez weighed 174 pounds on Showtime's scale and Angulo was 170"

That's over 3 years ago and the Chavez fight is at 164.5 (mandatory laugh track).

185 sounds about right.

To put into perspective how ridiculous these 155/164.5 division champions are, mid 180s is about what Hopkins/Kovalev/Ward weight in the ring. Extreme dehydration is a sport.

Why you making sense cuhh

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hmmm, how da fak he could rehydrate 20 pounds at fight night, it's insane

Gatti did it at a much lower weight class than this, it can be done you better believe that .

[bigdunny1]

Showtime via ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...tko-10th-round

"By fight night, Alvarez weighed 174 pounds on Showtime's scale and Angulo was 170"

That's over 3 years ago and the Chavez fight is at 164.5 (mandatory laugh track).

He will be at least 180.

That's unofficial BS weights which have proven to be flawed or downright fake. No clue if the guy had on jeans sneakers or whatever else if he stands on a fight night scale. And even by that canelo never over 175 that previous clown said. Molina exposed these network same day weights when someone quoted that weight after his fight last year on showtime. Said that weight is nowhere near what I am you guys had me step on a scale with all my clothes, wallent, keys, cell phone on my pocket so that weight is wrong. You quoting the same showtime weights that Molina trashed as lies on the air after his fight. So I don't buy these weights first off and even if you do a canelo is going up 2 weight classes against a fighter who has always had problems making weights and comes in huge. If canelo comes in heavier then Chavez it's because the Chavez camp phuked something up during his training camp and that's on memo. They need to stop making excuses they are clearly the bigger fighter.

[Citizen Koba]

How do you know that? Phuk outta here with duck tales and BS. Canelo gains the same amount of weight as the rest of the top 154lbs. And no proof he has EVER gained 20lbs the next day after making weight. Let alone that he can do that after moving up 2 weight classes to fight chavez. Don't be ridiculous

The rest of the top flight at 154 generally also come in in the 170+ range. Hell, Lara - who's one of smaller guys complained that he was disadvantaged by being tricked into a 165 limit (Angulo was something like 174 I think but I'd need to check) and would more normally come in about 170.

http://basementgymboxing.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/fight-night-boxing-weights-list-of.html

Can't say for sure what Canelo's weights have been but certainly 174 - 5 is plausible at his age (as reported in a previous post) when fighting at JMW. You may be right that 184.5 would be too high fighting at MW / SMW though - not that he couldn't reach that weight comfortably, but I suspect anything above about 180 would provide little advantage and would impact on his stamina and speed.

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If he arrives in vegas at 175 , and Angel says he will be 182 fight night that means he is already 7lbs dehydrated on arrival to vegas,,,,,,,,, well he is not going to grow 7lb of muscle from the weighin so its all water weight, this makes no sense to me what he saying , if I were training him I would know beforehand exactly what is his drying out limit and what ever it is add it to 164 and that's the weight I would train him at and that's the weight I would arrive in Vegas at.

This is what Oscar did wrong, too light for too long, its wrong you should train at your fight night weight and know your absolute limit on drying out and coming back to that fight night weight, I feel they going to fck it up in that last week.

[bigdunny1]

People assuming that canelo who just fought at 154 his last fight and has never fought above 155 his entire career is just going to blow up to 164.5? Sorry I don't buy it. He will be much less then that. The 164.5 limit was put in to make the fight happen but only Chavez is to required to make that weight. The blueprint has been seen in Floyd and Manny smaller fighters who have gone up and faced guys 1 or more weight class bigger usually at a catch weight so they never come close to the limit. They go up a few lbs more then they normally would but not the limit so they as the naturally smaller fighter keep their speed. Floyd came in 150 for fights against Oscar, Cotto, and Canelo for the 154 titles. Manny did the same came in at 144 for catch weight for a belt at 154 against Margarito who came in 150. Came in at 142 for a fight at 147 against oscar. Canelo might not even come at 160 on weigh in.

[Citizen Koba]

People assuming that canelo who just fought at 154 his last fight and has never fought above 155 his entire career is just going to blow up to 164.5? Sorry I don't buy it. He will be much less then that. The 164.5 limit was put in to make the fight happen but only Chavez is to required to make that weight. The blueprint has been seen in Floyd and Manny smaller fighters who have gone up and faced guys 1 or more weight class bigger usually at a catch weight so they never come close to the limit. They go up a few lbs more then they normally would but not the limit so they as the naturally smaller fighter keep their speed. Floyd came in 150 for fights against Oscar, Cotto, and Canelo for the 154 titles. Manny did the same came in at 144 for catch weight for a belt at 154 against Margarito who came in 150. Came in at 142 for a fight at 147 against oscar. Canelo might not even come at 160 on weigh in.

Canelo may not max out his ring weight to maintain speed, but even at the most conservative estimates he was weighing more than 164.5 in the ring when fighting at 154 so he certainly won't be fighting any lower than that. Why would he choose to dehydrate any more than he absolutely has to? That said it is quite possible they're viewing it as preparation for future fights at 160 maybe in which case it would make sense to treat it as essentially a MW fight.

[bigdunny1]

The rest of the top flight at 154 generally also come in in the 170+ range. Hell, Lara - who's one of smaller guys complained that he was disadvantaged by being tricked into a 165 limit (Angulo was something like 174 I think but I'd need to check) and would more normally come in

Lara is NOT a small 154lber and according to showtime bs weights canelo was 171 on fight night for lara fight. There was no significant weight difference against lara, trout, angulo, kirkland, smith, who all are really huge 154lbers. Smith couldn't even make 154 weight his last fight a week ago and lara, trout, kirkland have all fought at heavier weights in their careers then canelo has ever fought at (155). And look at guys like charlo these are all huge fighters who if back in the day where you had same day weighins would not be fighting at 154. Lara 10 years ago turned pro fighting at 158 phuk out of here he is a small 154lber. All these fighters at 154 and other weights are rehydrating that's the game today. Its allowed as long as you make weight why only complain when it's canelo?

[A.K]

Lmao y'all are clowns

[bigdunny1]

That said it is quite possible they're viewing it as preparation for future fights at 160 maybe in which case it would make sense to treat it as essentially a MW fight.

That's my theory since the fight was announced canelo will come in at or around 160 to prepare for 160 title fight next. He will be significantly smaller then chavez. He will beat chavez with his speed and skills advantage not by size. That's just plain ****** if you think canelo is planning to be bigger then chavez who is 6'1 and walks around OVER 200lbs between fights.