Is Marquez-Floyd the same as ggg-brook?

[boliodogs]

There was more natural weight difference between Marquez and Mayweather than there was between Brook and GGG. Mayweather was a full sized welterweight at the time and very lean and muscular at that weight. Marquez wasn't even a big jr. lightweight. Brook is a huge welterweight who kills himself to get to 147. GGG is a small middleweight. In the 30 day weigh in before their fight Brook actually outweighed GGG by a whopping 11 pounds.

[Sledgeweather17]

Marquez was 36 and already at his limit of weight at 135. He showed up as a fat 36 year old vs floyd when he jumped up 2 weightclasses. Brook is a peak fighter bursting out of 147, outmuscling former 154lb'ers and has fought above the 147 limit before. Brook is also on the good stuff and thus fairly clearly a Brook win is a better accomplishment than beating Fatquez.

Brook isnt such a poor fighter that beating a way overblown, old Fatquez is better.

Then why is Brook's only top Quality fighter a Shawn Porter that got KD by Broner and lost to Thurman?

Actually no what, lemmie not continue. As Jayz once said in The Takeover: "Don't argue with a fool coz people from afar can't tell who is who."

[pasawayako]

floyd-jmm is like david vs goliath

[pasawayako]

The worst part is floyd cheated jmm at weigh in. And i'm sure floyd use those IV's

[Gigantes]

First of all, there is no way Floyd Mayweather was anywhere near 10 pounds heavier than Marquez. Marquez was 148lbs and Floyd was at most 150lbs. Why? Because contrary to what the lying scum on this forum will tell you, Floyd almost always allowed himself to be weighed on fight night. He did it against Maidana (148lbs), he did it against Canelo (150lbs), he did it against Ortiz (150lbs), he did it against Judah (146lbs, yes, on FIGHT NIGHT), he did it against Baldomir (149lbs) and so forth.

He didn't allow the networks to weigh him for the Pac fight, but Navada/NSAC weighed him for the documents regarding his dehydration issues, and the weight was 149lbs.

Consistently through his career he has never rehydrated by much. His heighest is 6lbs, at that was when he was still at super featherweight.

Think about that before you claim a big weight advantage over Marquez, who was 148lbs, same as Floyd was in 2014 against Maidana.

If you don't believe me just say so and I'll provide proof, for ALL of those weights. Yes, I have it. Though precedence on this forum indicates that you will still deny it even when I supply the proof. You'll either blame the networks (HBO/Showtime) or the commissions for fabricating the weight. That's what usually happens.

Secondly, Marquez is an ATG who was p4p#2 at the time. What was/is Brook? He an ATG? He in the p4p rankings?

nice, can i see those weights. cool you have them

[LoadedWraps]

Been saying it since I joined BoxingScene and will continue to say it til the day I die - if you think Floyd beating JMM had anything to do with weight, you really need to learn more about boxing. What happened that night was one master boxer outclassing another master boxer. No weight discrepancy would have changed the result that night.

Size/weight is only a valid point when it's a really physical fight in which two fighters were inside fighting and trying to out-muscle each other and the case could actually be made that a more even weight comparison could make the difference in key situations. Not when a fight is pure, fluid boxing.

[Reloaded]

How can it be when both were 130 pounders , when was G ever a 147 pounder.

[SplitSecond]

Been saying it since I joined BoxingScene and will continue to say it til the day I die - if you think Floyd beating JMM had anything to do with weight, you really need to learn more about boxing. What happened that night was one master boxer outclassing another master boxer. No weight discrepancy would have changed the result that night.

Size/weight is only a valid point when it's a really physical fight in which two fighters were inside fighting and trying to out-muscle each other and the case could actually be made that a more even weight comparison could make the difference in key situations. Not when a fight is pure, fluid boxing.

This post is highly uninformed. If you show up bloated, and outta shape that will take a piece of your conditioning. Conditioning = your balance, speed, strength, stamina etc and power doesn't just have to mean in the arms, all your movement, flexibility is compromised. Marquez was compromised on top of fighting a guy longer, taller, bigger etc.

[Robbie Barrett]

There was more natural weight difference between Marquez and Mayweather than there was between Brook and GGG. Mayweather was a full sized welterweight at the time and very lean and muscular at that weight. Marquez wasn't even a big jr. lightweight. Brook is a huge welterweight who kills himself to get to 147. GGG is a small middleweight. In the 30 day weigh in before their fight Brook actually outweighed GGG by a whopping 11 pounds.

JMM was weighing in the mid 140s when he was fighting at 130, he wasn't a small lightweight at all.

Mayweather weighed around 150 like he usually does. There was a few lbs difference. Mayweather schooled the P4P #2, the guy that would later KO your idol at the same weight.

[Metho_4u]

Thanks for proving my point man.

Well, thanks for being such a puzzy and making it so easy to make fun of you.

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