Is Marquez-Floyd the same as ggg-brook?

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  • Sledgeweather17
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    #21
    Originally posted by Thraxox
    Marquez back was a super featherweight movimg up to lightweight after being defeated by pacman. Then he beats casamayor for the unified lightweight. And then floyd pulls him up over 2 divisions to fight at the welterweight catchweight of 145 which floyd missed. Then the size difference was seen in the ring with floyd 2 inches taller and 5-10 pounds heavier fighf night. While ggg brook fight night was one inch taller and outweighed ggg by a pound.

    Now does ggg get the same credit of beating brook like what floyd did to marquez?
    First of all, there is no way Floyd Mayweather was anywhere near 10 pounds heavier than Marquez. Marquez was 148lbs and Floyd was at most 150lbs. Why? Because contrary to what the lying scum on this forum will tell you, Floyd almost always allowed himself to be weighed on fight night. He did it against Maidana (148lbs), he did it against Canelo (150lbs), he did it against Ortiz (150lbs), he did it against Judah (146lbs, yes, on FIGHT NIGHT), he did it against Baldomir (149lbs) and so forth.

    He didn't allow the networks to weigh him for the Pac fight, but Navada/NSAC weighed him for the documents regarding his dehydration issues, and the weight was 149lbs.

    Consistently through his career he has never rehydrated by much. His heighest is 6lbs, at that was when he was still at super featherweight.

    Think about that before you claim a big weight advantage over Marquez, who was 148lbs, same as Floyd was in 2014 against Maidana.

    If you don't believe me just say so and I'll provide proof, for ALL of those weights. Yes, I have it. Though precedence on this forum indicates that you will still deny it even when I supply the proof. You'll either blame the networks (HBO/Showtime) or the commissions for fabricating the weight. That's what usually happens.

    Secondly, Marquez is an ATG who was p4p#2 at the time. What was/is Brook? He an ATG? He in the p4p rankings?

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    • TheUptownKid
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      #22
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      Marquez back was a super featherweight movimg up to lightweight after being defeated by pacman. Then he beats casamayor for the unified lightweight. And then floyd pulls him up over 2 divisions to fight at the welterweight catchweight of 145 which floyd missed. Then the size difference was seen in the ring with floyd 2 inches taller and 5-10 pounds heavier fighf night. While ggg brook fight night was one inch taller and outweighed ggg by a pound.

      Now does ggg get the same credit of beating brook like what floyd did to marquez?
      Marquez was not a huge feat in floyds career just like brook shouldn't be seen as a big accomplishment for ggg.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
        First of all, there is no way Floyd Mayweather was anywhere near 10 pounds heavier than Marquez. Marquez was 148lbs and Floyd was at most 150lbs. Why? Because contrary to what the lying scum on this forum will tell you, Floyd almost always allowed himself to be weighed on fight night. He did it against Maidana (148lbs), he did it against Canelo (150lbs), he did it against Ortiz (150lbs), he did it against Judah (146lbs, yes, on FIGHT NIGHT), he did it against Baldomir (149lbs) and so forth.

        He didn't allow the networks to weigh him for the Pac fight, but Navada/NSAC weighed him for the documents regarding his dehydration issues, and the weight was 149lbs.

        Consistently through his career he has never rehydrated by much. His heighest is 6lbs, at that was when he was still at super featherweight.

        Think about that before you claim a big weight advantage over Marquez, who was 148lbs, same as Floyd was in 2014 against Maidana.

        If you don't believe me just say so and I'll provide proof, for ALL of those weights. Yes, I have it. Though precedence on this forum indicates that you will still deny it even when I supply the proof. You'll either blame the networks (HBO/Showtime) or the commissions for fabricating the weight. That's what usually happens.

        Secondly, Marquez is an ATG who was p4p#2 at the time. What was/is Brook? He an ATG? He in the p4p rankings?
        ^^^^^^
        That, my friends, is called owning fanboys with facts.

        Making popcorn as we speak for the coming trainwreck when some idiot actually is ****** enough to try and refute all this.

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        • Szef
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          #24
          These 'your guy did what mine did, but your guy did it worse' threads crack me up.

          Both Marquez and Brook were in there against guys they didn't have any chance to beat to begin with.

          They were both bad match-ups, period.

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          • SplitSecond
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            #25
            No. Marquez didnt start his juicing.

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            • Canelo and GGG
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              #26
              Floyd was like Giant infront of Juan LMAO

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                #27
                JMM-Floyd was a comeback fight for floyd. JMM was p4p top 3 and is like somewhere in the bottom top 10 wins for floyd.

                Brook was GGG's best win and toughest fight, GGG's exact words, when GGG was 34 years old. Brook was not p4p and IDK where he was on the welterweight list but his best win was Porter, some 2 years earlier.

                Floyd had championships in 5 weight classes by the time he was 34. GGG beat Brook.

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                • Kigali
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Thraxox
                  Marquez back was a super featherweight movimg up to lightweight after being defeated by pacman. Then he beats casamayor for the unified lightweight. And then floyd pulls him up over 2 divisions to fight at the welterweight catchweight of 145 which floyd missed. Then the size difference was seen in the ring with floyd 2 inches taller and 5-10 pounds heavier fighf night. While ggg brook fight night was one inch taller and outweighed ggg by a pound.

                  Now does ggg get the same credit of beating brook like what floyd did to marquez?
                  JMM moved up to WW and a STAYED there....scoring a spectacular KO in the interim.

                  Brook moved back down...he did not stay at the weight he moved up to.

                  See the difference?

                  Let's all hope so.

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                  • Kigali
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    No. Marquez didnt start his juicing.
                    Manny hasn't scored a KO since he started testing.

                    Pactrash fans should stay away from the juicing taunts.

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                      First of all, there is no way Floyd Mayweather was anywhere near 10 pounds heavier than Marquez. Marquez was 148lbs and Floyd was at most 150lbs. Why? Because contrary to what the lying scum on this forum will tell you, Floyd almost always allowed himself to be weighed on fight night. He did it against Maidana (148lbs), he did it against Canelo (150lbs), he did it against Ortiz (150lbs), he did it against Judah (146lbs, yes, on FIGHT NIGHT), he did it against Baldomir (149lbs) and so forth.

                      He didn't allow the networks to weigh him for the Pac fight, but Navada/NSAC weighed him for the documents regarding his dehydration issues, and the weight was 149lbs.

                      Consistently through his career he has never rehydrated by much. His heighest is 6lbs, at that was when he was still at super featherweight.

                      Think about that before you claim a big weight advantage over Marquez, who was 148lbs, same as Floyd was in 2014 against Maidana.

                      If you don't believe me just say so and I'll provide proof, for ALL of those weights. Yes, I have it. Though precedence on this forum indicates that you will still deny it even when I supply the proof. You'll either blame the networks (HBO/Showtime) or the commissions for fabricating the weight. That's what usually happens.

                      Secondly, Marquez is an ATG who was p4p#2 at the time. What was/is Brook? He an ATG? He in the p4p rankings?
                      Marquez was 36 and already at his limit of weight at 135. He showed up as a fat 36 year old vs floyd when he jumped up 2 weightclasses. Brook is a peak fighter bursting out of 147, outmuscling former 154lb'ers and has fought above the 147 limit before. Brook is also on the good stuff and thus fairly clearly a Brook win is a better accomplishment than beating Fatquez.

                      Brook isnt such a poor fighter that beating a way overblown, old Fatquez is better.
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 04-15-2017, 08:45 AM.

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