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  • aboutfkntime
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    #171
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    Taken from the Nevada State Athletic Commission Standard Contract

    3. Duties of Contestant. Contestant will use his or her best skill and ability, at such times and places as may be required by
    Manager. Contestant agrees to place himself or herself under the management of Manager, and, also agrees to take part in such
    contest of unarmed combat and also give exhibitions of unarmed combat, training and training exercises, whenever and wherever
    required by Manager, in such places of public entertainment and/or amusement, and in such cities, towns and other places, without
    limitation, where Manager may from time to time request or direct. Contestant binds himself or herself and agrees to faithfully
    fulfill, and live up to any agreement entered into on his or her behalf by the Manager, during the term of this agreement.
    Contestant agrees that he or she shall not, during the continuance of this agreement, take part in any contests or exhibitions of
    unarmed combat, or act or perform or otherwise exercise Contestant's talent in any manner, or place, how or whatsoever, without
    having first obtained the written permission of Manager. Contestant shall attend all rehearsals and attend to all training and
    exercising as Manager shall require, and shall proceed and travel, by any means of conveyance as and when required by Manager
    for the purposes of this agreement.
    4. Duties of Manager. Manager binds themselves and agree to use their best efforts to secure remunerative contests and
    exhibitions of unarmed combat for Contestant.
    Don't know exactly what Golovkin's contract says but I
    I doubt he has total control.

    I don't believe that for one second

    Loeffler puts the deals together, and Gennady ok's them

    same as everyone else

    there is nothing to indicate otherwise

    I don't believe that

    you guys need to hold GGG accountable for his decisions


    Originally posted by TonyGe
    My problem is the Saunders Canelo situation and the I want all the belts talk. It sounds like G and management aren't on the same page. Just sayin...

    or, they are on the same page..... and that is just an excuse to take the blame off Gennady

    he is 100% responsible - and therefore 100% accountable - for the words/actions of his official representatives

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    • Chuckguy
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      #172
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      I don't believe that for one second

      Loeffler puts the deals together, and Gennady ok's them

      same as everyone else

      there is nothing to indicate otherwise

      I don't believe that

      you guys need to hold GGG accountable for his decisions





      or, they are on the same page..... and that is just an excuse to take the blame off Gennady

      he is 100% responsible - and therefore 100% accountable - for the words/actions of his official representatives
      I'm not saying he is right but neither are you. Plenty of fighters don't have a say. Just look at PAC who wanted to fight khan and settled for Jeff hornacek instead why? Cause he doesn't have the final say just like GGG. Cantnelo doesn't even have a say because if he did the ggg fight would have happened at 160.

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      • TX_BOXNG
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        #173
        Lol what other makes sense other than Canelo lol, i thought they were moving up to 164 i mean 168

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          #174
          Coulda swore Abel said they're moving to 168 if they don't get Canelo this year

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            #175
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            I'm not saying he is right but neither are you. Plenty of fighters don't have a say. Just look at PAC who wanted to fight khan and settled for Jeff hornacek instead why? Cause he doesn't have the final say just like GGG. Cantnelo doesn't even have a say because if he did the ggg fight would have happened at 160.

            Canelo fought Lara explicitly against the wishes of his promoter

            Pac has always had 100% full control over his career

            e.g.
            despite the fact that Arum wants nothing to do with Amir Khan, and for some reason has been violently campaigning for Jeff Horn..... Pac would have done whatever he wanted had Khan/the money, come good

            Pac is 100% responsible/accountable for every single decision made by his team

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              #176
              Ggg should have fought Saunders and then cantnelo in sept. Now he is bowing down to golden biatch and all they are going to do is fight Saunders in sept and let ggg get older. Ggg team once again shot themselves in the foot again. Fawking idiots

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              • Chuckguy
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                #177
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Canelo fought Lara explicitly against the wishes of his promoter

                Pac has always had 100% full control over his career

                e.g.
                despite the fact that Arum wants nothing to do with Amir Khan, and for some reason has been violently campaigning for Jeff Horn..... Pac would have done whatever he wanted had Khan/the money come good

                Pac is 100% responsible/accountable for every single decision made by his team
                Yes cantnelo fought Lara and crickets after. Why didn't he do the same with the ggg fight? Because he knew he would get murked. Ggg is on the downslope and now he just has to wait a little longer then beat a past prime ggg beat him and you and the haters will rejoice. PAC never had any control where is your proof? St least with cantnelo we all saw him force the Lara fight props for that

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  Yes cantnelo fought Lara and crickets after. Why didn't he do the same with the ggg fight?

                  that is exactly what he did

                  first Mr " 154-168 " refused to negotiate on weight

                  you blamed Canelo

                  then Mr " businessman " refused 15mil

                  then you blamed Canelo, again



                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  Because he knew he would get murked. Ggg is on the downslope and now he just has to wait a little longer then beat a past prime ggg beat him and you and the haters will rejoice. PAC never had any control where is your proof? St least with cantnelo we all saw him force the Lara fight props for that

                  that is obvious, so does not require any proof

                  the promoter works for the fighter, not the other way

                  it has always been that way

                  if Pac does not like a decision made by his team, he can change that decision..... and if Pac does not like his team, he can change them as well

                  same as every other fighter, EVER

                  a fighter could approve a deal made by his promoter, despite that deal not including the best opponent, simply because it will further his career in the long term..... the fighter could approve that deal because it gives him an easier fight, or he could approve that deal because it is the best business decision..... either way, he makes the decision

                  the only two fighters whom fans have suggested were not in control of their own career.... are Pac and Golovkin..... and I think that is just a weak excuse

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                  • DaOld1two1two
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Jacobs won't fight BJS, you fool. The whole MW division is running scared of Bill!

                    Canelo wouldn't fight him and GGG won't even fight him in Kazhakstan.
                    You must be out of your Fing mind!
                    Canelo put bill hoe to sleep!
                    GGG puts B hoe to sleep!
                    David L puts hoe to sleep!
                    Just like a hoe ready to sleep with anyone. .

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      that is exactly what he did

                      first Mr " 154-168 " refused to negotiate on weight

                      you blamed Canelo

                      then Mr " businessman " refused 15mil

                      then you blamed Canelo, again






                      that is obvious, so does not require any proof

                      the promoter works for the fighter, not the other way

                      it has always been that way

                      if Pac does not like a decision made by his team, he can change that decision..... and if Pac does not like his team, he can change them as well

                      same as every other fighter, EVER

                      a fighter could approve a deal made by his promoter, despite that deal not including the best opponent, simply because it will further his career in the long term..... the fighter could approve that deal because it gives him an easier fight, or he could approve that deal because it is the best business decision..... either way, he makes the decision

                      the only two fighters whom fans have suggested were not in control of their own career.... are Pac and Golovkin..... and I think that is just a weak excuse
                      Your dumb ass holds on to quotes from 3-4 fawking years ago. I forgot I'm dealing with a ******ed fan boy trump lover that uses alternative facts.

                      You are right every fighter controls their own careers promoters managers have. Nothing to do with it

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