Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: Jacobs Rematch is 3 or 4 Fights Down The Line

[aboutfkntime]

so, the current story is.....

despite being the consummate professional, Ward was lying when he stated that he could make 168 to fight Golovkin TWICE in 2015

and we know this..... because the new poster yankees7448 told us so

fk me





go get a fkn job loser, a real one

[yankees7448]

what a fkn **** you are

1) Ward attempted to fight Golovkin TWICE, at 168

2) if Ward could not make 168, they why did Team Bullshht demand 164?

what an ass-hole

FACT: you clowns accused Mora, Lara, Ward, Cotto, Canelo..... of bluffing

FACT: Golovkin has never called anyone's "bluff" EVER

1. Ward didn't fight anyone at 168 since 2013. So **** that "he tried twice" noise.
2.Why did they offer 164? They were trolling Ward. Ward would have had enough trouble making 168 let alone 164.

Cotto pussied out and that much is undeniable. Lara and Ward fight in different divisions. Ward couldn't keep making 168. Lara never left 154. So who the **** cares about them?

And stop with that Sergio Mora bull*****. Sergio Mora is a gatekeeper. He peeked almost 10 years ago. He would barely qualify as a sparring partner for GGG.

[yankees7448]

so, the current story is.....

despite being the consummate professional, Ward was lying when he stated that he could make 168 to fight Golovkin TWICE in 2015

and we know this..... because the new poster yankees7448 told us so

fk me





go get a fkn job loser, a real one

Never said he lied but if he could make 168 why did he ask a career long super middleweight to fight him at a catchweight and then never drop back down to 168. There were good fighters there. James DeGeale, Gilbert Ramirez,the Dirrell brothers and Badu Jack were all there. So it isn't as if 168 was devoid of options. But he chose to move up. Unless you think Ward was ducking them the answer probably was that he couldn't make 168.

[Xi_]

Triple L is ducking if he don't fight jacobs after canelo

[aboutfkntime]

1. Ward didn't fight anyone at 168 since 2013. So **** that "he tried twice" noise.
2.Why did they offer 164? They were trolling Ward. Ward would have had enough trouble making 168 let alone 164.

Cotto pussied out and that much is undeniable. Lara and Ward fight in different divisions. Ward couldn't keep making 168. Lara never left 154. So who the **** cares about them?

And stop with that Sergio Mora bull*****. Sergio Mora is a gatekeeper. He peeked almost 10 years ago. He would barely qualify as a sparring partner for GGG.

wow, what a surprise..... you rolled out the same old pre-owned bullshht


"If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."
And if Ward holds the line at 168?
"Then tell Ward to go somewhere else. We don't need Ward. That would be my response to Tom, if Tom came to me with that," Sanchez said.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

“GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense,” Loeffler said to ESPN. “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

"The fight is No.1, not for money, not for business,” Golovkin said. “I want the fight. My focus is 160. This is my goal to hold all the belts. Andre, I don’t understand if he’s 168 or 175. I don’t know. He works at 168. I’m 160. I think [fighting in the] middle is very correct, not 160, not 168. 164 is very correctly. Like 50-50, 50-50 money. Maybe he [Ward] has more people a long time ago, two, three years ago. Right now, he’s new. People forget him. This is true. He’s a great champion. For me it doesn’t matter [if he tries to win a super middleweight title]. For me, it’s 160. For big fight, it doesn’t matter. I’ll go to 164, 168.".....

http://www.knbr.com/2015/09/16/ward-ggg-golovkin-rejected-5050-offer-to-fight/

my links > your bullshht


only the worst fan-tards deny that Golovkin ducked Ward

lil'G ducked Ward TWICE !!

this post proves the 1st duck, and my sig proves the 2nd

[aboutfkntime]

smarten up, yankees.....

It’s possible to think of better unmade fights right now than Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin, but the list only goes a couple fingers, tops. The two have danced around each other for the last couple years, each side accusing the other of not really wanting to lambada. But at this precise moment, it’s easy to pinpoint the perpetrator.

This month Golovkin’s team made explicit that they want the fight at 164 lbs. with a 50-50 purse split. The split is perfectly reasonable, and only has gotten more reasonable over time; there was a period when the idea of Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin at 50-50 was goofy given how much better ratings and how much larger crowds Ward (above left) was drawing, but Golovkin (above right) has caught up pretty well on those metrics by staying busy, looking impressive and becoming a fan favorite.

The 164-pound thing? Ludicrous. Golovkin, as we’ve said here a million times, is under no obligation to move up from middleweight. But he has indicated a willingness to fight Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. at the full super middleweight limit. As a source (apparently one on Ward’s side) told BoxingScene:

“Ward wants to fight Golovkin and he wants to fight him next. But it won’t happen at 164-pounds. By accepting 168 with Carl Froch and Chavez Jr, but then demanding 164 with Ward – it’s their way of saying ‘we don’t want to fight Andre Ward.”

There’s really no other explanation other than a version of that one. Ward has said repeatedly he couldn’t get below 168 if he tried, and his last fight was at 172. With Golovkin’s side saying they’ll only take the fight at 164, they’re either trying to make it look like they want the fight at all, knowing it won’t happen at that number; or they’re saying they’re only willing to fight Ward if he cripples himself.

And yes, you can point fingers at Ward about being guilty of this kind of thing for the Chad Dawson fight. The situation was slightly different there because Dawson, the light heavyweight champion, volunteered that he’d be willing to fight at 168, but given the catchweight Ward has taken some abuse for what was otherwise a win over a top fighter, and it’s not undeserved.

The other major difference, though, is that Golovkin is a fan favorite where Ward is a more divisive figure, so he probably won’t catch as much hell. As a fan of both Golovkin and Ward, I’d rather neither of them sought any catchweights, or that anyone else did, even when they’re more fair or reasonable than what Golovkin is requesting. This is just my reminder to all the boxing people out there that when it comes to advantage-hunting and trying to weaken opponents and trying to force the blame for a fight not happening, some fighters play a bit dirtier than others, but almost everyone is playing the same game, no matter how much their reputation is as a fearless warrior.

[yankees7448]

You can't duck someone above you in weight and who hasn't made the 168 pound weight limit since 2013.

[yankees7448]

wow, what a surprise..... you rolled out the same old pre-owned bullshht


"If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."
And if Ward holds the line at 168?
"Then tell Ward to go somewhere else. We don't need Ward. That would be my response to Tom, if Tom came to me with that," Sanchez said.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

“GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense,” Loeffler said to ESPN. “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

"The fight is No.1, not for money, not for business,” Golovkin said. “I want the fight. My focus is 160. This is my goal to hold all the belts. Andre, I don’t understand if he’s 168 or 175. I don’t know. He works at 168. I’m 160. I think [fighting in the] middle is very correct, not 160, not 168. 164 is very correctly. Like 50-50, 50-50 money. Maybe he [Ward] has more people a long time ago, two, three years ago. Right now, he’s new. People forget him. This is true. He’s a great champion. For me it doesn’t matter [if he tries to win a super middleweight title]. For me, it’s 160. For big fight, it doesn’t matter. I’ll go to 164, 168.".....

http://www.knbr.com/2015/09/16/ward-ggg-golovkin-rejected-5050-offer-to-fight/

my links > your bullshht


only the worst fan-tards deny that Golovkin ducked Ward

lil'G ducked Ward TWICE !!

this post proves the 1st duck, and my sig proves the 2nd

Once again, Andre Ward hadn't made 168 since almost 2 years prior to those articles. You can't duck someone if they are above you in weight class. All this other bull***** is just noise. Ward wanted to fight GGG at 168. Then stick around. There were good fights for him at 168....guys with names and increasing profiles but whom were very beatable for somone with Ward's skill. He didn't stick around. So all this, well why couldn't he fight Ward at 168 if he would fight Froch or Chavez Jr there is just meaningless noise. Both guys were bigger money fights (since Ward can't attract flies to ****) who fought at 168 more recently than Ward did. Andre Ward was a forgotten man desperately looking for publicity. By calling out GGG for a fight at a weight he probably couldn't make he managed to regain relevency while never actually having to make the weight cut and prove it. Now I give him credit for leaving the division to challenge Sergei Kovalev. He could have fought much easier opposition. But in all likelyhood he couldn't make 168.

[aboutfkntime]

You can't duck someone above you in weight and who hasn't made the 168 pound weight limit since 2013.

FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Froch at 168
FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Chavez at 168
FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Degale at 168
FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Jack at 168
FACT: lil'G was wiling to fight Hopkins at 168
FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Chudinov at 168
FACT: lil'G was willing to fight Ramirez at 168
FACT: lil'G was NOT willing to fight Ward at 168

just so long as you're happy with that




No wait, I forgot.....

Mr " anyone from 154-168 " wanted Froch at 166

my bad

[aboutfkntime]

just so long as you're happy with that

seriously, have some pride man jeez