Comments Thread For: Chavez Jr. Rips Canelo: Gave Away His Belt, Lied About Weight

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #21
    Originally posted by bluepete
    Because he went down a weight to fight a guy who is basically a British domestic level fighter. To do this he gave up the Middleweight title after saying weight didn't matter. Then he heads up to 164,after he's backers telling us they didn't think he was ready for 160.If you can perform at 164 you can do it at 160.which we were told he wasn't ready for.
    Wasn't Calzaghe a British domestic fighter as well as Eubank?

    You don't see a triangle coincidence from the WBO, GBP, Warren, and K2?

    Warren ain't doing any other promoters favors. They've got the WBO! Whoever wants it gotta pay! So how do you get a council, the WBO, that's shown up scaling favors such as for Top Rank, wouldn't know scheme of things? Beat Smith and get the 154 WBO. Then the 154 Champion has leverage going up within the same council? It's been a war for which promoter pays Warren what he wants.

    You're saying Alvarez went "up" as if Chavez Jr. Could make anything less than that? Jr. came in at 168 against Britsch without high level training or Nacho. If the Chavez family felt it were impossible they wouldn't have taken it. All it meant was that Chavez Jr. would have to work harder, pure hustle. The catch is justified. Anything higher would be in favor for Chavez Jr. and fans would complain that Alvarez is going north avoiding 160 even though Marquez weighed 142 against PAC in a full limit sanctioned 147 bout. Do you think Alvarez will bottle to 164.5?! I'm thinking he will come in at 161

    This catch has nothing to do with 160. It has to do with the recovery of Alvarez losing his battle to All Star which was inevitable. 8.4 mill isn't chump change to lose. One could say "well then why didn't he fight GGG if he needed the money?" As we see K2 has a different set of rules in making a fight happen

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    • creekrat77
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      #22
      Whoah whoah whoah, yea great verbal takedown of Canelo's fake @ss but is he really one to talk? H*ll I remember WBC did everything possible to screw Sergio over and not make the match happen with JCC Jr

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      • Mr. Luthor
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        #23
        Originally posted by bluepete
        Because he went down a weight to fight a guy who is basically a British domestic level fighter. To do this he gave up the Middleweight title after saying weight didn't matter. Then he heads up to 164,after he's backers telling us they didn't think he was ready for 160.If you can perform at 164 you can do it at 160.which we were told he wasn't ready for.
        He went back to 154, one pound less than he competed at in his previous fight, to win a major 154 lb world championship. He gave up the WBC 160 belt because he was never going to accept GGG as his mandatory because that would entitle Golovkin to 45% of the purse. Never gonna happen on DLH's watch and with 160,000 PPV buys.
        Can't use being able to fight at a weight as evidence to support your position in the same breath as using it as a critique. Canelo fought and won at 154 so that made him a Jr Middleweight.
        Also can't attack Canelo for fighting Chavez Jr when Golovkin was trying to get the exact same Chavez Jr fight a few years ago.

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        • Travycat
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          #24
          He's clever, I give him that. He just keeps trying to get under that skin and dig.

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          • woo9115
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            #25
            C'mon, Canela... At this catchweight; they show strip him of his JMW belt. Boxing us about money only. It's not about the best fights. It's about vest fights for the money. Pick a weight and stay in it or move up. Stop this fluctuating and crying about it.

            I hope JCC he wins... Then his dream fight with GGG will be gone...
            Last edited by woo9115; 04-13-2017, 01:02 PM.

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            • _Maxi
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              #26
              Big dummy keeps writing long paragraphs that no one cares about.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #27
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Big dummy keeps writing long paragraphs that no one cares about.
                Maxi pad stays on my dyck must like the way it taste. tell us again how Google search pie charts proves GGG is a bigger star then Canelo and will do huge ppv numbers against jacobs...oh wait

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                • b Murphington
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                  #28
                  ****in Jr and Canelo both are guilty of weight issues for ****s sake!

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                  • uniquehump
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                    #29
                    Jr. has a point. Many people are saying he's a hypocrite because he is a fighter who has come into the ring with a significant weight advantage. However; Canelo has been considered one of the greats and a future hall of famer who will take on all comers. Jr. stopped being considered great very early in his career and he knows this. He knows that Canelo considers him a soft touch, which is the reason Canelo considered moving up to 164.5 to fight him, when he didn't even want to fight GGG at 160 as he claimed he was not a 160 pound fighter. Jr. looks to be taking this fight seriously and appears to be in good shape and motivated to dethrone Canelo, but he still does not have the technique, unless he's learned some things during this training camp, he may come up short. But I like the talking back and forth and I hope that Jr can make it as tough on Canelo as Jacobs made it on GGG.

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                    • bluepete
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
                      He went back to 154, one pound less than he competed at in his previous fight, to win a major 154 lb world championship. He gave up the WBC 160 belt because he was never going to accept GGG as his mandatory because that would entitle Golovkin to 45% of the purse. Never gonna happen on DLH's watch and with 160,000 PPV buys.
                      Can't use being able to fight at a weight as evidence to support your position in the same breath as using it as a critique. Canelo fought and won at 154 so that made him a Jr Middleweight.
                      Also can't attack Canelo for fighting Chavez Jr when Golovkin was trying to get the exact same Chavez Jr fight a few years ago.
                      Not attacking him at all. The money makes the fight make sense. Sure he went down to 154 again. But it wasn't to fight a world class fighter. It was to hit a glorified domestic level fighter who was brave and nothing else. In other words it wasnt a real fight where Saul would be tested in any way. The nonsense about having to gradually build up to middle is just that. He says himself he feels much better. That's because he's really a middle. He'll come in just above 160 without looking like a rake for once.

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