Rigo was/is way more overhyped than Lomachenko

[DinoCop]

Who should he beat, Klitschko? Tyson? 130s or 140s?

[Lester Tutor]

Not in this era. HBO blackballed him. Their corporate partner, ESPN, calls him boring every week. If you put him in with guys that try to win, the excitement will take care of itself.

And when did excitement become the benchmark in boxing over competition?

If you put two fighters on the same level in against each other excitement will take care of itself because you have 2 equally matched opponents competing against one another.Instead, we have HBO marketing "excitement" which is really them giving their signed guys opponents who will bleed or get KTFO.

Is watching someone you know face an opponent that has no chance to win "exciting"? Not to me. If it is for you, OK, to each his own.

I want fighters in competitive fights more than I want to see my favorite guys get easy KO's.

The only criticism I agree with many was his promotional and mgmt advisory. Even Lou DiBella criticized Rigo as boring when Frampton won the first bout against Cruz, so unfortunately I could only think that Haymon, considering mainstream ratings is what pushes PBC, no way could Haymon even help Rigo.

I would LOVE to think the real reason why Rigo is on the blacklist on the industry downlow was because he pulled a Butch from Pulp Fiction. Was supposed to pull a dive with Donaire but decided not to. What would Arum do about that?

[Loque-san]

Rigondeaux's win over Donaire was a great win over a top 5-10 P4P fighter and a better win than anyone on Lomachenko's resume. That's how it was considered at the time, and if you disagree with that or if you are using the Walters fight as an argument, you are simply a cretin. However, Loma's resume is deeper and better overall and is only continue to get better.

These Rigo detractors are pathetic and funny as hell, they think being inactive is like him losing or being exposed. If you're not fighting, you're not fighting, that's it.

[therealpugilist]

He has one great win over Donaire, (who funnily enough is called a hype job by Rigo diehards) and this was seemingly enough to have him in the top five pound for pound indefinitely. He's been in these mythical p4p rankings for years despite a string of mediocre wins against meh opponents. Meanwhile Lomachenko has completely destroyed world class opponents such as Russell Jr and Walters, not just beat but utterly decimated.

And these same people say he doesn't deserve to be ranked p4p?? Yet they had Rigo in their top 5 p4p for what reason exactly? One great win and passing the "eye test" .

are you serious?

the dude got blackballed for beating the next filipino star...Hbos new pacquiao..even his own promoter screwed him

if anything he was NOT hyped, promoted enough with his skill level

[therealpugilist]

Why are you being a revisionist? When rigo beat donaire he was coming off a string of victories that had him in every top 5 p4p ranking. Rigo destroyed him.

Loma has not defeated any boxer as highly regarded. Added to that his loss to Salido suggests his style needs to be tweaked when in with above average bigger men with a lot of pro experience.

Honestly it feels like this is another one of your coded passive bait threads. Maybe it isn't since you are just off a ban.

^^^^this


i guess they think people cant read between the lines

[SUBZER0ED]

Not in this era. HBO blackballed him. Their corporate partner, ESPN, calls him boring every week. If you put him in with guys that try to win, the excitement will take care of itself.

And when did excitement become the benchmark in boxing over competition?

If you put two fighters on the same level in against each other excitement will take care of itself because you have 2 equally matched opponents competing against one another.Instead, we have HBO marketing "excitement" which is really them giving their signed guys opponents who will bleed or get KTFO.

Is watching someone you know face an opponent that has no chance to win "exciting"? Not to me. If it is for you, OK, to each his own.

I want fighters in competitive fights more than I want to see my favorite guys get easy KO's.

So, you're saying that if HBO & it's affiliate call Rigo boring, but he really isn't, that no one else with any clout will step up, call BS & build him up? I don't believe that.

You said yourself that two well-matched, skilled fighters equals excitement, though we know that is not always the case, read Mayweather vs Pacquiao.
I'm not sure how you drew the conclusion that I favor a mismatch over a good, competitive fight.

I just can't believe that if HBO saw a potential cash cow in Rigondeaux, that it would have called itself screwing him because he embarrassed their intended star, Donaire. Imagine: HBO execs before the Donaire vs Rigondeaux fight, "This should be a great showcase of our next Philipino star, when he beats a highly-skilled Cuban fighter!" Then after the fight, "Aww hell no! that Cuban beat our next Philipino star badly! We'll never make the kind of money we were hoping to with Donaire! This Rigondeaux guy is an awesome fighter & we could make a mint off him, but fuck that! We'll make sure he never amounts to anything! We'll say he's boring and everyone will believe us & not give him a chance! That'll teach him!" See how silly that sounds?

[brettWall]

are you serious?

the dude got blackballed for beating the next filipino star...Hbos new pacquiao..even his own promoter screwed him

if anything he was NOT hyped, promoted enough with his skill level

It's been ten years since he left Arum/HBO. The Cuban can do no wrong with these idiots. Are you saying he has no life after HBO/Arum? Whose responsible for that?

[The Big Dunn]

So, you're saying that if HBO & it's affiliate call Rigo boring, but he really isn't, that no one else with any clout will step up, call BS & build him up? I don't believe that.

You said yourself that two well-matched, skilled fighters equals excitement, though we know that is not always the case, read Mayweather vs Pacquiao.
I'm not sure how you drew the conclusion that I favor a mismatch over a good, competitive fight.

I just can't believe that if HBO saw a potential cash cow in Rigondeaux, that it would have called itself screwing him because he embarrassed their intended star, Donaire. Imagine: HBO execs before the Donaire vs Rigondeaux fight, "This should be a great showcase of our next Philipino star, when he beats a highly-skilled Cuban fighter!" Then after the fight, "Aww hell no! that Cuban beat our next Philipino star badly! We'll never make the kind of money we were hoping to with Donaire! This Rigondeaux guy is an awesome fighter & we could make a mint off him, but fuck that! We'll make sure he never amounts to anything! We'll say he's boring and everyone will believe us & not give him a chance! That'll teach him!" See how silly that sounds?

I am saying that HBO blackballing him and the subsequent negativity has made people not want to watch him. IMO if you put him in with good comp, the exciting will happen, just like it did in the donaire fight.

Well, I can't control if someone doesn't come to fight.

I wasn't saying you preferred excitement, just saying I'm ok with it and will not criticize you for it if in fact you do.

Why does he need to be a cash cow? You can have great fights among guys that are not big earners. I'm not asking that he headline a card, just use resources to give him the fights we as fans want to see.

Of course it sounds silly when you word it like that. That said, this isn't far from what happened. he seemed to get punished. I get his lack of english, being from cuba, and his style makes for a tough sell if you are marketing the fighter instead of the fight.

Of course the main issue is what is being sold. If HBO was selling boxing, I'd think rigo would have a place on the network because when matched with top guys he would put on an exciting fight. of course those guys generate money so they aren't going to take on a high risk, low reward guy like rigo.

[bojangles1987]

As good as Rigo may be, he has done nothing since beating Donaire and frankly I question whether he should be ranked p4p at all, let alone above someone like Lomachenko.

[Kigali]

Who's rigo?

Take your Rabies meds midget