I like Loma and all but #1 p4p is a bit premature and hasnt fought or beat a p4p type

[-Kev-]

haha dont reach too hard there pal.

Donaire was indeed in a lot of peoples p4p list, but 1 win in 17 fights, which was 4 years ago does not equate to being in the p4p discussion yourself.

As for Kovalev, let's actually wait until Ward actually win's eh?

Crawford indeed doesnt have a plethora of elite names to choose from, but that's on him choosing to stay where he's at, feeding on midgets from lower weight classes and sub par opposition.

He's been vocal about struggling to make weight so let's unify ASAP and move up and see whats cracking

BTW you didnt need to try and make excuses for bud and rigo my point was simply this:

Crawford & rigo is in a ton of peoples p4p list with 1 decent win

This post is really silly and an example of moving the goal post.

The question was how many P4P fighters Rigo, Ward and Crawford beat. Rigo beat Donaire (who was officially #5 on both The Ring/TBRB). Ward beat Kovalev, go check that W on Boxrec.

Beating a P4P fighter from the past does not eliminate it from a boxer's resume because it's 'been too long'. It's not Rigondeaux's fault that he was ducked by other P4P fighters like Frampton and LSC.

Terence Crawford has been Ring champion in both weight classes he's been in, that's enough to make him P4P. And P4P lists aren't made when you beat a fellow P4P fighter, that makes no sense. P4P lists consists of fighters of different weight classes, multiple fighters of the same weight class being in it is rare.

Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, and Bradley was the most fighters from the same weight class that there's ever been in the P4P list at once in this era, followed by Mayweather, Pacquiao and Mosley in late 2009 - early 2010. But this was really rare and just a product of a robust WW division that had ATG's and HOF'ers littered all over.

Crawford being 'the man to beat' in two different weight classes gives him a lot of merit of being top 5 P4P. Crawford blew up just 3 years ago when he was introduced as #10 in The Ring's 135lb ranks in the end of 2013. Getting two different Ring belts in like 3 years is amazing. And he beat Postol in his 2nd weight class, a guy who had a group of haters who were accusing him of ducking.

[Hype job]

This post is really silly and an example of moving the goal post.

The question was how many P4P fighters Rigo, Ward and Crawford beat. Rigo beat Donaire (who was officially #5 on both The Ring/TBRB). Ward beat Kovalev, go check that W on Boxrec.

Beating a P4P fighter from the past does not eliminate it from a boxer's resume because it's 'been too long'. It's not Rigondeaux's fault that he was ducked by other P4P fighters like Frampton and LSC.

Terence Crawford has been Ring champion in both weight classes he's been in, that's enough to make him P4P. And P4P lists aren't made when you beat a fellow P4P fighter, that makes no sense. P4P lists consists of fighters of different weight classes, multiple fighters of the same weight class being in it is rare.

Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, and Bradley was the most fighters from the same weight class that there's ever been in the P4P list at once in this era, followed by Mayweather, Pacquiao and Mosley in late 2009 - early 2010. But this was really rare and just a product of a robust WW division that had ATG's and HOF'ers littered all over.

Crawford being 'the man to beat' in two different weight classes gives him a lot of merit of being top 5 P4P. Crawford blew up just 3 years ago when he was introduced as #10 in The Ring's 135lb ranks in the end of 2013. Getting two different Ring belts in like 3 years is amazing. And he beat Postol in his 2nd weight class, a guy who had a group of haters who were accusing him of ducking.

There's nothing "official" about p4p rankings. It's all subjective.

I'll be watching you and the other usual suspects from now on, I know what you're all about, you'll never give him credit no matter what, and all of us "in the know", know why

[-Kev-]

You've moved on from GGG hate to Lomachenko hate, typical punk full of insecurity

Lomachenko hate? Because I don't think he's P4P #1? Lol.

And you are one of the biggest punks on here, wtf are you talking about, you are a racist troll and clown. Look at you posting an afro pic to make this about white vs black. You're most likely a very shy, timid little man with your ****** online personality that you've created. You probably don't have any balls. You're only posting here because the forum is desperate for members, otherwise you are not actually fit to post here, you're mentally ill, you're more than likely to carry out a mass shooting with your genetically ******ed ass

I don't see any Blacks or Hispanics being ******ed, shooting places up with their mental illness. So who's the insecure punk lol.

[-Kev-]

There's nothing "official" about p4p rankings. It's all subjective.

I'll be watching you and the other usual suspects from now on, I know what you're all about, you'll never give him credit no matter what, and all of us "in the know", know why

Projection at it's finest.

I will be watching your ******ed ass too. I just hope you don't go shooting up a black church or a university now. Stay with us, don't let the demons get to you. I know you're genetically predisposed but you have to fight it away. I have hope for your clinically ******ed/depressed ass.

[Derranged]

I agree...........

[satiev1]

Except I'm not discrediting him at all, so trying to drag me into this ****** race argument is pretty pointless.

Walters was ****ing horrendous. He quit the first time Loma put any real pressure on him. Of course no one's going to act like he beat a top p4per or a killer. He was a huge disappointment in the Loma fight. Again, most of that had to do with Loma himself, but Walters fought like someone who didn't want to be there. He quit the second he took any actual punishment.

Don't give credit for lomochenko doing that. LOL

[bojangles1987]

Don't give credit for lomochenko doing that. LOL

Don't bother reading two sentences below that one. LOL.

FFS, what a bunch of insecure fanboys this forum is.

[Hype job]

Lomachenko hate? Because I don't think he's P4P #1? Lol.

And you are one of the biggest punks on here, wtf are you talking about, you are a racist troll and clown. Look at you posting an afro pic to make this about white vs black. You're most likely a very shy, timid little man with your ****** online personality that you've created. You probably don't have any balls. You're only posting here because the forum is desperate for members, otherwise you are not actually fit to post here, you're mentally ill, you're more than likely to carry out a mass shooting with your genetically ******ed ass

I don't see any Blacks or Hispanics being ******ed, shooting places up with their mental illness. So who's the insecure punk lol.

lmfao that's why they commit more murders per capita right? What about the black dude who got fired from his gym who went on to shoot the place up

You're a 5'8 160 something punk. I'd lift you up and throw your weak frame in the dumpster.

[Hype job]

Projection at it's finest.

I will be watching your ******ed ass too. I just hope you don't go shooting up a black church or a university now. Stay with us, don't let the demons get to you. I know you're genetically predisposed but you have to fight it away. I have hope for your clinically ******ed/depressed ass.

I'm glad I made you show your hand

You dindus do this stuff at the highest rate. You've already been exposed as a ****** who doesn't understand basic high school math and percentages

Don't make a fool of yourself again.

[Hype job]

I thought it was skillspaybills