I like Loma and all but #1 p4p is a bit premature and hasnt fought or beat a p4p type

[mlac]

Except I'm not discrediting him at all, so trying to drag me into this ****** race argument is pretty pointless.

Walters was ****ing horrendous. He quit the first time Loma put any real pressure on him. Of course no one's going to act like he beat a top p4per or a killer. He was a huge disappointment in the Loma fight. Again, most of that had to do with Loma himself, but Walters fought like someone who didn't want to be there. He quit the second he took any actual punishment.

How am i dragging you into it? you replied to me

There's 2 way's to view it, Walters was considered a killer and a huge KO puncher, Loma put a clinic on him and made him quit

OR

' Walters just didnt show up, it was more that than any kind of clinic by lomachenko '

You are choosing the latter...

[future hendrixx]

its not only who he's beating but how hes doing it thats the impressive part. lets not forget that if it was up to arum he would've took the traditional padded record buildup to hype him up. it was loma that demanded to face the best asap. he literally made walters his b*tch. that alone makes him top 3 already.

[Sheldon312]

Loam P4P 2 or 3.

[Madison Boxing]

Who has Crawford beat that is a p4p

Who has Ward beat that is p4p

Who has Rigo beat that is p4p

i will do my best to answer mate...

crawford- noone

rigondeux- noone

ward- kovalev (robbery)

[-Kev-]

Who has Crawford beat that is a p4p

Who has Ward beat that is p4p

Who has Rigo beat that is p4p

At the time:

Rigondeaux beat #5 P4P Nonito Donaire

Ward beat #3 P4P Sergey Kovalev

Crawford entered as #10 LW in 2013, became Ring LW champ in 2014, became Ring JWW champ in 2016 - He's doing everything he can, but unfortunately there are no immediately available P4P fighters for him from 135 to 147. He's gonna have to wait until Thurman, or Spence/Brook become top 10 P4P to have some one of that caliber to fight.

[mlac]

At the time:

Rigondeaux beat #5 P4P Nonito Donaire

Ward beat #3 P4P Sergey Kovalev

Crawford entered as #10 LW in 2013, became Ring LW champ in 2014, became Ring JWW champ in 2016 - He's doing everything he can, but unfortunately there are no immediately available P4P fighters for him from 135 to 147. He's gonna have to wait until Thurman, or Spence/Brook become top 10 P4P to have some one of that caliber to fight.

haha dont reach too hard there pal.

Donaire was indeed in a lot of peoples p4p list, but 1 win in 17 fights, which was 4 years ago does not equate to being in the p4p discussion yourself.

As for Kovalev, let's actually wait until Ward actually win's eh?

Crawford indeed doesnt have a plethora of elite names to choose from, but that's on him choosing to stay where he's at, feeding on midgets from lower weight classes and sub par opposition.

He's been vocal about struggling to make weight so let's unify ASAP and move up and see whats cracking

BTW you didnt need to try and make excuses for bud and rigo my point was simply this:

Crawford & rigo is in a ton of peoples p4p list with 1 decent win

[-PBP-]

i think Kovalev has a p4p worthy resume, Crawford kinda too and both have passed the eye test

GGG, not sure if his resume really measures to Loma..and y'all know i love me some GGG but what's his best win? a decision vs Jacobs?

GGG needs that Canelo fight or he may never get that p4p worthy resume. Right now I think #1 is up for grabs between Ward/GGG/Kovalev/Crawford/Loma/Mikey Garcia.

I'd love to see if we can get Loma vs. Mikey this year. That will put pressure on the Ward/Kovalev winner for that #1 spot.

[bojangles1987]

How am i dragging you into it? you replied to me

There's 2 way's to view it, Walters was considered a killer and a huge KO puncher, Loma put a clinic on him and made him quit

OR

' Walters just didnt show up, it was more that than any kind of clinic by lomachenko '

You are choosing the latter...

I'm not choosing either. I said it was both. Walters was hopelessly overmatched, but he also made no real effort to change his fortune. He was content to let Loma outbox him and gave up the first time Loma stopped outboxing him and started punishing him. It was a really, really pathetic performance with no fire at all.

That's why people don't look at Walters like a killer now, because when he got his chance on the biggest stage he completely **** the bed and gave up.

[Hype job]

He destroyed Russell and Walters who are top world class fighters.

You dislike him because of his white skin.

You dislike him because he makes you feel insecure.

You dislike him because he's better looking than you.

[Hype job]

At the time:

Rigondeaux beat #5 P4P Nonito Donaire

Ward beat #3 P4P Sergey Kovalev

Crawford entered as #10 LW in 2013, became Ring LW champ in 2014, became Ring JWW champ in 2016 - He's doing everything he can, but unfortunately there are no immediately available P4P fighters for him from 135 to 147. He's gonna have to wait until Thurman, or Spence/Brook become top 10 P4P to have some one of that caliber to fight.

You've moved on from GGG hate to Lomachenko hate, typical punk full of insecurity