Loma In Perspective

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  • koolkc107
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    #11
    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
    You really can't compare ages. Loma turned pro at a much later age, unless you're comparing where they were at after the same amount of time as a pro. At the rate he's going, Loma will outdo everybody in their first twenty fights plain and simple. However, I'm not trying to jump on the hype train. He has more proving to do for sure. Only time will tell, but damn. I'm sold so far.
    I think comparing them at the same chronological age is fair given how Loma is being hyped.

    Folks cannot have it both ways.

    If it is a wonder how he is doing in so few pro fights, we must account for why and part of that is his age and experience before he turned pro.

    He is being compared to greats; he must stand up to these kinds of comparisons as well.

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      #12
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      He's 29 now, he turned pro 4 years ago.

      To jump straight into top level professional boxing is almost unheard of, especially these days. As I said, it's not worth making comparisons when the situations and time lines are so vastly different.
      To have 400 amateur fights is just as rare.

      And just as good a preparation for certain fighters as 15 pro fights.

      Especially if 5 or 6 of those amateur fights are without headgear and scored the same way pro fights are.

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        #13
        Originally posted by koolkc107
        To have 400 amateur fights is just as rare.

        And just as good a preparation for certain fighters as 15 pro fights.

        Especially if 5 or 6 of those amateur fights are without headgear and scored the same way pro fights are.
        Plenty of guys have extensive amateur careers, none of them are fighting for world titles in their 2nd pro fight and 2 weight world champions inside 7 fights.

        I genuinely don't understand the need for boxing fans to go out of their way to try and minimize great accomplishments in the sport. It should be celebrated, but whatever.

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          #14
          All this hype to a fighter who still has salido problems lmoa

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          • daggum
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            #15
            in perspective broner won 4 titles in 4 weight divisions from 2011-2015 which trumps floyds 3 and lomas 2.

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            • Tony Trick-Pony
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              #16
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              I think comparing them at the same chronological age is fair given how Loma is being hyped.

              Folks cannot have it both ways.

              If it is a wonder how he is doing in so few pro fights, we must account for why and part of that is his age and experience before he turned pro.

              He is being compared to greats; he must stand up to these kinds of comparisons as well.
              Mayweather clearly did more in a 19-year career obviously. In four years though? Loma's definitely got him beat at this point, but we're not at the crucial point yet. Very early, but what a start.

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              • Real King Kong
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                #17
                I don't think anyone is comparing loma to floyd as far as legacy goes...that's impossible, loma only has 9 fights. I think the comparison is more about head to head...and it's not completely unreasonable to think loma could possibly beat any 130lb version of floyd.

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                • koolkc107
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
                  Plenty of guys have extensive amateur careers, none of them are fighting for world titles in their 2nd pro fight and 2 weight world champions inside 7 fights.

                  I genuinely don't understand the need for boxing fans to go out of their way to try and minimize great accomplishments in the sport. It should be celebrated, but whatever.
                  When you start calling facts a "minimizing of accomplishments" maybe it would be better to ask yourself why.

                  Loma had almost 400 amateur fights. That is extremely rare.

                  And nothing was stopping him from turning pro much earlier.

                  I am sorry but I think if you are hyping a guy as the next ATG then he gets the scrutiny that his own actions (and the actions of those hyping him) predicate.

                  And then there is the fact he had 6 fights in the WSB, which was a professional boxing league. But HBO rarely mentions those fights when hyping him and certainly doesn't add them to his pro record.

                  The age comparison is apt.

                  And by the way. Loma comes up short if we compare the first 4 years of his and Floyd's respective careers as well.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                    Mayweather clearly did more in a 19-year career obviously. In four years though? Loma's definitely got him beat at this point, but we're not at the crucial point yet. Very early, but what a start.
                    Floyd had already won his first lineal (I left it out of the OP doing the comparison) and defended it 5 times within the first 4 years of his career.

                    Loma still comes up short.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by koolkc107
                      Floyd had already won his first lineal (I left it out of the OP doing the comparison) and defended it 5 times within the first 4 years of his career.

                      Loma still comes up short.
                      Lineal? Hahahahaha. As if that ever mattered...

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