Loma is scary good, better than Floyd

[-Kev-]

Lomachenko definitely beats Salido in a rematch but idk how much it would have more to do with Salido just being worn out or Lomachenko becoming better. I know both would be a factor, but I wonder if Salido just being older and more war torn would be the bigger factor. I did see opportunities where Sosa should've not been head hunting and instead go to the body where I think Salido would've gone to the body in those instances. Sosa would just stand there and follow and head hunt and not even try to throw body punches even when he had Lomachenko on the ropes. I can't see Salido letting Loma off that easily.

[SplitSecond]

This happens all the time. Floyd is just a name to throw in there when a fighter looks great after a performance, you'd think Floyd is the GOAT the way he's used as a measuring stick so often. Do you remember the "Broner is better than Floyd" threads when Broner was at 130 (by anti-Floyd fans)?

Notice they never say "So and so is better than Pacquiao"...or "So and so is better than Roy Jones Jr".

They go straight to Floyd Mayweather Jr, as if to say Floyd is the greatest boxer they ever saw, and this "So and so" boxer is even better. Like Floyd is the ultimate measuring stick.

Just people being people. Mayweather is the undefeated fighter with a fanbase that believes he was immaculate and could do it all. Some folk seem to feel it necessary to compare him to others to try to show that isn't the case. I doubt anyone actually believes Mayweather is the GOAT.

[-Kev-]

Just people being people. Mayweather is the undefeated fighter with a fanbase that believes he was immaculate and could do it all. Some folk seem to feel it necessary to compare him to others to try to show that isn't the case. I doubt anyone actually believes Mayweather is the GOAT.

It's just that there's other great fighters to use as a comparison, like why can't people mention RJJ or Pacquiao? I feel like those are the top 3 fighters of my era. RJJ, Floyd and Pac, followed by Hopkins and De La Hoya to close out the top 5, with JMM, Morales, etc. But it seems like Floyd is always the go-to measuring stick. Like to indicate that you think really highly of a fighter, you have to say he's better than Floyd. Saying he's better than Pacquiao or RJJ could make some feel like they're not making a good enough point in how good said fighter is. It has to be Floyd or else readers won't get how good you think the fighter is.

If the thread was titled: "Loma is scary good, better than Pacquiao". I have a feeling all you'd get is actually some people coming in here agreeing that he's technically better and maybe head to head at 130, Loma wins. But since Floyd's name was used, a lot of disagreement and discussion will take place. It's an argument.

[victorythagr8]

You don't know **** about Salido. Dude has fought everyone and has had success.

So tell me how Gamboa look far superior against a prime salido while a past prime salido beat lomenchenko. What that fight showed me is that lomenchenko will struggle against anybody who can cut the ring off fight him inside. Which tells me he need to avoid Garcia at all cost.

[SplitSecond]

It's just that there's other great fighters to use as a comparison, like why can't people mention RJJ or Pacquiao? I feel like those are the top 3 fighters of my era. RJJ, Floyd and Pac, followed by Hopkins and De La Hoya to close out the top 5, with JMM, Morales, etc. But it seems like Floyd is always the go-to measuring stick. Like to indicate that you think really highly of a fighter, you have to say he's better than Floyd. Saying he's better than Pacquiao or RJJ could make some feel like they're not making a good enough point in how good said fighter is. It has to be Floyd or else readers won't get how good you think the fighter is.

If the thread was titled: "Loma is scary good, better than Pacquiao". I have a feeling all you'd get is actually some people coming in here agreeing that he's technically better and maybe head to head at 130, Loma wins. But since Floyd's name was used, a lot of disagreement and discussion will take place. It's an argument.

Not much else to say except what I originally posted. This is our era, Mayweather is currently the "it" guy, having gone undefeated people are trying to hand him a defeat at least outside of the ring. It's called hype, like punchers get.

Do you think Mayweather is GOAT?

[SplitSecond]

So tell me how Gamboa look far superior against a prime salido while a past prime salido beat lomenchenko. What that fight showed me is that lomenchenko will struggle against anybody who can cut the ring off fight him inside. Which tells me he need to avoid Garcia at all cost.

Because while Salido was trying his hand vs pro's like Yuriorkis Gamboa(18-0), MIkey Garcia (30-0), and Juan Manuel Marquez (42-2) building up a near 60 pro bout career, Lomachenko had just 1 pro bout and had to use the fight vs such a veteran test the waters ontop of winning (e.g. pacing himself because he didn't know how his stamina would hold up).

Despite all that 50 odd fights and free reign on dirty tactics and lowblows vs a 1 pro fight newbie, Salido only won by a point on two scorecards.

[ShoulderRoll]

After 9 fights you're ready to make this proclamation?

Let Lomachenko's career play out first. Give him a chance to develop fully before passing judgement.

Don't be that guy.

[-Kev-]

Not much else to say except what I originally posted. This is our era, Mayweather is currently the "it" guy, having gone undefeated people are trying to hand him a defeat at least outside of the ring. It's called hype, like punchers get.

Do you think Mayweather is GOAT?

Nope, this is what I said:

you'd think Floyd is the GOAT the way he's used as a measuring stick so often

And I think prime for prime RJJ was greater.

It's just weird since Floyd catches a lot of flak, for people to then turn around and use him as a measure for greatness for fighters they do like.

[Redd Foxx]

He's been beating up kids in the amateurs for years ...

Lol, I appreciate your refreshingly honest perspectives on things. I know you're not bashing him there but yea, it's another way to look at it.^ Makes me look at his "sympathy" to Jason Sosa in a different way. Maybe he's gotten the old "aren't you a little old for this?" from the parents of his competitors in the past.
... Which also makes me look at the halloween costumes in another way as well...

[Lomasexual]

Floyd at 130 never went 12 with a bum Thai fighter like Loma.

I don't know whose alt you are, but your posts aren't contributing anything.