Loma is scary good, better than Floyd

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  • daggum
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    #161
    Originally posted by Kigali
    Being out of shape is not an advantage.

    Canelo offered to weigh in at 152.

    Floyd didn't put a rehydration clause on his like he COULD have.

    Loma didn't fight Walters when he missed weight for Sosa because he was scared. ...by your logic.

    He wound up fighting Walters anyway....after he was sidelined for a year.

    Really brave.
    floyd went on and on about how pac drains fighters and he wants his opponents to be healthy....then he fought canelo at 152. he's full of sh-it.

    they still tried to make the loma-wlters fight but walters turned it down over money. pay attention.

    yes he hadnt fought for ayear and mosley hadnt fought for almost a year and a half. how brave of floyd to take on a 39 year old man off a long layoff.

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      #162
      Originally posted by NaijaD
      I'm pretty sure that person said Floyd has faster hands on top of his boxing skills..... which both he and Loma have an abundance of. If someone says the difference in the fight between Mikey and Loma will be power then I'm certain they aren't just talking about Power alone but they are acknowledging that both guys have plenty of assets but they figure the power will decide the match. What does GRJ have other than hand speed that led you to make the comparison to Floyd???

      You're the one missing the point. Whether you think Floyd is TBE or not, talking about SRL is pointless because that doesn't explain how Lomachenko is already surpassing Floyd like you said.

      You just ramble like you have a valid point but really you're not backing anything up.
      boxing skills? its all fantasy like floyd fans always say. they think floyd is the fantasy best and say dont be salty. i think loma is so you shouldnt be salty. floyd fans themselves said resume doesnt make floyd tbe so by their own logic i can say loma has surpassed him. hes the tbe dont be salty. you cant say anything because its opinion. just like floyd beign the best is your opinion. im not salty. if flyod had a better resume you could have something to back your point just like if loma had a better resume i coudl bak up my point. its just opinion dont be salty. i think loma would destroy floyd. he always struggled with speed against guys like judah, pac and even hoya. loma has never struggled with anyone like floyd so why would he now? cause you like floyd isnt a good answer. dont be salty.

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      • Kigali
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        #163
        Originally posted by daggum
        floyd went on and on about how pac drains fighters and he wants his opponents to be healthy....then he fought canelo at 152. he's full of sh-it.

        they still tried to make the loma-wlters fight but walters turned it down over money. pay attention.

        yes he hadnt fought for ayear and mosley hadnt fought for almost a year and a half. how brave of floyd to take on a 39 year old man off a long layoff.
        Floyd didn't drain Canelo.

        There was no rehydration clause....THAT is how you drain a fighter.

        Loma was crying and said Walters was too big when he didn't make weight against Sosa.

        Then he fought him any way at 130....after he was on the sidelines for a year.

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        • NaijaD
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          #164
          Originally posted by daggum
          boxing skills? its all fantasy like floyd fans always say. they think floyd is the fantasy best and say dont be salty. i think loma is so you shouldnt be salty. floyd fans themselves said resume doesnt make floyd tbe so by their own logic i can say loma has surpassed him. hes the tbe dont be salty. you cant say anything because its opinion. just like floyd beign the best is your opinion. im not salty. if flyod had a better resume you could have something to back your point just like if loma had a better resume i coudl bak up my point. its just opinion dont be salty. i think loma would destroy floyd. he always struggled with speed against guys like judah, pac and even hoya. loma has never struggled with anyone like floyd so why would he now? cause you like floyd isnt a good answer. dont be salty.
          I couldn't care less if you think Loma destroys Floyd.... at no point did I argue against that point so I don't know why you're rambling about that, it's a fantasy matchup so you're free to make your pick regardless of anyone's opinion.

          You talking about Lomachenko surpassing Floyd is also fantasy, not because Lomachenko can't do it (he can) but because he hasn't done it yet. You're free to **** on Floyd's career all you want but it's dumb to try and praise someone's resume that is FACTUALLY worse than his.

          I don't know why you can't see this simple fact, no ones salty.... we're just pointing out the gaping holes in your logic.

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          • dan_cov
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            #165
            Lomachenko is exceptionally talented but can we see him vs a few different styles at least without pointing to his amateur record? I'm sorry but we've seen so many decent fighters already go through these same recycled one dimensional, upright, stiff, boxer-puncher types.

            He's going the right way and looks incredible but these sort of opponents are flattering him and would and do flatter any legit A/A-/B+/B sort of fighter, they're pretty much made for a guy with his style. Its like Manny when TR matched him with a long string of flat-footed brawlers, Manny is a legend but lets not pretend there was no genius matchmaking involved along the way.
            Lets say him vs a Jezreel Corrales, Barthelemy, Easter Jr

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              #166
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Lomachenko is exceptionally talented but can we see him vs a few different styles at least without pointing to his amateur record? I'm sorry but we've seen so many decent fighters already go through these same recycled one dimensional, upright, stiff, boxer-puncher types.

              He's going the right way and looks incredible but these sort of opponents are flattering him and would and do flatter any legit A/A-/B+/B sort of fighter, they're pretty much made for a guy with his style. Its like Manny when TR matched him with a long string of flat-footed brawlers, Manny is a legend but lets not pretend there was no genius matchmaking involved along the way.
              Lets say him vs a Jezreel Corrales, Barthelemy, Easter Jr


              Arum knows how to match his fighters.
              It's not WHO you fight...it's WHEN you fight them.

              Bob has that down pat.

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                #167
                Originally posted by Kigali


                Floyd was a World Champion at 21.

                Stop trolling.
                Loma didn't turn pro until he was 26 or 27 (?). I meant as a pro, Loma is being moved up fast, although he does have a ridiculously long amateur career. Look-- I understand you're still fuming over this weekend because all three white ass crackahs won. But there's no need take it out on me.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by NaijaD
                  That's cool.... No one would argue that Floyd has a better resume than Leonard, it's pretty much factual that Leonard has the better names at their peak but what does Leonard's resume have to do with Lomachenko???? you go off on a tangent trying to sound like you have a point but you're rambling while adding nothing to this discussion. Typical Daggum.

                  And lol @ you comparing GRJ to Floyd at 130...... just loooool
                  Spot on.

                  But it's all of them. Their bitterness of Floyd's success clouds their judgement so much, that they just go way off topic.

                  "Lomachenko is better than Floyd, he's surpassing him."

                  *Gets proven wrong with accomplishments and resumes*

                  "But SRL doe"

                  "But where are the prime ATG's on Floyd's resume" Completely forgetting that this thread is about Lomachenko surpassing/being better than Mayweather and Lomachenko himself has no ATG's/HOF'ers prime or past prime.

                  "But Ali..."

                  "But Duran..."

                  "Floyd's not better than those guys doe!"

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #169
                    Floyd does what he does betterbthan anyone. I'm sure loma does what he dfies better than fgloyd

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                    • NaijaD
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      Spot on.

                      But it's all of them. Their bitterness of Floyd's success clouds their judgement so much, that they just go way off topic.

                      "Lomachenko is better than Floyd, he's surpassing him."

                      *Gets proven wrong with accomplishments and resumes*

                      "But SRL doe"

                      "But where are the prime ATG's on Floyd's resume" Completely forgetting that this thread is about Lomachenko surpassing/being better than Mayweather and Lomachenko himself has no ATG's/HOF'ers prime or past prime.

                      "But Ali..."

                      "But Duran..."

                      "Floyd's not better than those guys doe!"

                      It's what he does then after I erased the Leonard argument he pulled out the Floyd is not TBE argument to justify the Leonard comparison. Once again another point that has nothing to do with Lomachenko surpassing Floyd.

                      Eventually after refusing to follow him off topic for like the third or fourth time, I was told that I am salty or whatever. I guess that's how a clown admits defeat.

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