Loma is scary good, better than Floyd

[Tony Trick-Pony]

russell is the #1 fighter at 126 now. thats like saying jones win over hopkins wasnt that good just stop.

floyds resume is overrated. when you are listing baldomir as an example of a great resume you lost that debate. a great resume is leonard fighting prime hearns, duran, benitez, kalule, and near prime hagler. its a shame boxing fans have such low standards now. when you talk about leonard you dont say well he would have beaten prime hearns, prime duran, prime benitez etc...you say HE DID BEAT THEM. with floyd unfortunately its the opposite or its look at this crappy guy named baldomir he beat aren't you impressed? no not really.

floyd fans just have to deal with this. these are the ramifications for taking it easy and not challenging yourself. its easy to say oh you just hate floyd but you know there are legit criticisms of his resume that you cant explain away. its impressive to fight for so long and only have a couple gift decisiosn lik him but ill take leonards shorter more explosive career any day.

That= Floyd summed up.

[meme_man]

L....O....L.



Lomachenko: Martinez, Russell Jr, Walters, Sosa.



Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo, Maidana, Pacquiao.





Again:



Martinez, Russell Jr, Walters, Sosa.





Martinez, Russell Jr, Walters, Sosa.

[stuff jones]

Martinez, Russell Jr, Walters (not top 10), Sosa.



Hernandez: 130 Lineal
Corrales: #1 SFW #5 P4P
Chavez: Top 5 SFW
Castillo: #1 LW
Gatti: #1 JWW
Baldomir: Ring/Lineal WW
Judah: #3 WW
De La Hoya: #3 JMW
Hatton: Ring/Lineal JWW #6 P4P
Marquez: Ring LW/#2 P4P
Mosley: #2 WW, #3 P4P
Cotto: #1 JMW
Canelo: Ring JMW, #9 P4P
Maidana: #8 WW
Pacquiao: #1 WW, #3 P4P



Martinez, Russell Jr, Walters (not top 10), Sosa.

Floyd never fought an in his prime ATG great at their best weight. That's a fact.

[-Kev-]

Floyd never fought an in his prime ATG great at their best weight. That's a fact.

Lomachenko has never even beaten a HOF'er.

This thread is about Lomachenko being better, surpassing Floyd. Your opinion of Floyd's individual resume makes no sense here. This is a comparison of Floyd and Lomachenko. Since you put down Floyd's resume for not having a prime ATG on his resume, you have to also add in which prime ATG Lomachenko beat.

[Xi_]

Floyd never fought an in his prime ATG great at their best weight. That's a fact.

Neither has Pacquiao or Hopkins......nobody in this last era has.

[Reloaded]

The angles, the offensive output, the cardio and footwork. He made a lot of my friends into following boxing. OK, he may not have one punch KO power, but Sosa looked like he almost died right before he threw in the towel. Have we seen anyone like Loachenko????

WIll Loma have to move up in weight for anyone to fight him?

He is great fighter, but Sosa was Sosa I said before the fight he wont deal with Lomos speed, and I haven't even seen the fight yet will try and catch it tonight.

Point is you look better and I mean anybody looks better with certain opponents, what I see in this forum time after time is how over the top people go on a performance and its generally against ordinary guys, like I said I haven't seen the fight but Sosa was going to get a beating because of the speed difference, now put Lomo in with Garcia and then we can really see whats going on with these two.

[-Kev-]

130 Lineal champion
135 Ring/lineal champion
147 Ring/lineal champion x2
154 Ring/lineal champion
13x titleholder through 5 weight classes
5 Ring/Lineal champions beaten
5 #1 ranked fighters
8 other top 10 ranked fighters (#2-10)


In 1937, Henry Armstrong won The World 135lb championship title, 7 months later, he won the world 147lb championship title, holding both at the same time.

The next time this happened was 75 years later, by a fighter who went by the name of Floyd Mayweather Jr. In 2013 he won the Ring WW title, 4 months later he won the Ring JMW title, holding both championship titles simultaneously until 2015 when he retired.

floyds greatness was based on fantasy skills and def not resume

[BennyST]

That are the opponents Floyd was fighting while Loma fought the likes of Salido and Gary Russel

Yes, but you do have to take into account that Loma is nearly 30 years old. He didnt even start his pro career until he was 25 or 26.

At 30, Floyd had been champion for nearly a decade and had fought about 13 champions. Loma has fought 4. Their career trajectories aren't similar at all, so comparing them is asinine. Floyd had fought guys like Oscar, Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, Zab, all sorts by the same age and he'd been doing at the pro level for three times as long and had fought three times as many top level fighters.

[BennyST]

I never really made it through an entire floyd fight (ZZzz) so I can't say for sure.
At least I'm honest.

Seriously?

It's a sick fight mate. Watch it. If you say you don't like it, then there is very, very, very little boxing you could ever like.

More where this came from too. He's had some really good fights.

One more fight definitely worth watching:

[Graz]

Lomachenko has to be one of the most pure fighters in the game. Sosa was a worthy opponent but couldn't match the speed, angles and volume of punches coming from Loma. Very impressive performance.