Comments Thread For: A Redo For Andre Ward, Sergey Kovalev and Their Promoters

[Edward90]

It wasn't a knock at his religious beliefs, I would never do that.

Ward is fake because he calls himself that but then sues his dying promoter. A guy who basically build his career, got him big paydays, bigger than he deserved. Not to mention all the stalling and talking about retirement even though he was obligated to give Kovalev a rematch.

So because his promoter was dying, he shouldn't try to get out of his contract? I don't know about his paydays and I really don't care. Ward wanted to get out of his contract and was trying to find avenues to do that. His promoter dying doesn't change the fact that he was unhappy with his contract. I hardly see how that conflicts with him viewing himself as a Son of God.

So he mentioned retirement. So what? The rematch is happening. That's a non-issue. So is he fake because the rematch is happening? Isn't this what we wanted?

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
"Andre Ward didn’t have to do it. But he did."

Yeah, he was backed into a corner. Fight Kov, or lose a big slice of that retirement money he's likely set aside. In court.

"...pulling himself off the canvas in the first fight to claw his way back against one of the most prominent finishers in the sport should have proven a lot."

Most don't think he 'pulled himself back'. They think (rightfully so) that he got the nod because of his name and prestige. Sure, he did well in the 2nd half... but was getting beaten up in the first half. And Kov was champ.... hence, the logical choice as winner.

"In Ward’s case, Roc Nation Sports clearly isn’t doing enough to enhance his visibility."

Wouldn't make much of any difference if he was on TV daily. The general consensus is the guy is a boring fighter to watch. That's just the way it has always been with him, and will always be. THAT is why he isn't popular enough in his own hometown to fill the venue.

Anything in terms of low numbers for this (or any) Ward fight... comes down to Ward. He's talented, yes. But he's also a bore to watch for most fans.

Really, the general consensus is your dislike for Ward, thus you have posted only negative things about him. We all have fighters we don't like, but he beat kovalev, and imo he will beat him again.

You Wardiots are all alike. Can't even see a bought off W. I did say the guy is talented. I also said the guy is boring as shiii. And neither is wrong. The vast majority agree with me too. But it's ok to have differing views on these fights and how they will go.

[hitking]

It wasn't a knock at his religious beliefs, I would never do that.

Ward is fake because he calls himself that but then sues his dying promoter. A guy who basically build his career, got him big paydays, bigger than he deserved. Not to mention all the stalling and talking about retirement even though he was obligated to give Kovalev a rematch.

You don't know Ward or Kovalev personally. So STFU about who's real and who's fake.

[Mr. Luthor]

Don't forget a court challenge. "Son of K" loves to go to court.

Court challenge?

[Mr. Luthor]

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"Andre ward didn't have to do it. But he did." See,that's just plain wrong. The first fight had an rematch clause,which kovalev used. Ward was legally obligated to give him the rematch,or they would have met in court instead of the ring. A little research goes a long way.



If Ward doesn't do this fight, he'll forever be laughed outta town at any boxing event he shows up at. So yeah, he HAS to do it. He's been backed into a corner, which he hates.

That's comical. Ward was warmly greeted in the UK after beating Kovalev. Only Ward haters get upset that a boxer uttered the word "retirement" during negotiations for a fight.

[Mr. Luthor]

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He didn't have to do it? Umm.. pretty sure he signed a contract that said he did.



Retire? With what? The HBO commentator pay? Cuz in court, he'd have lost enough money to sink a ship.

You're clearly confused and ignorant in regards to contract laws. Kovalev could not sue Ward, nor any other boxer, for retiring. The stipulations for a rematch are only applicable to an active boxer. Stop the foolishness.

[Mr. Luthor]

Who knows, you can't please these people, they fight the best out there and they're a "coward", they win they're a "coward", they take time off? "Coward". The sign the rematch, "coward". While guys like Golovkin get a pass for fighting C level or under opposition their entire career.

That's the problem, these so called boxing fans cry about the best not fighting the best, but when they do and the boxer they hate wins...they get emotional and delusional. It's pathetic.

[Mr. Luthor]

And by doing so he would have earned a new nickname: "A.D.B. -Andre Da B1tch".

BTW, without seeing a contract I don't know if what you say is true. You might be right, but a lot depends on how draconian the contract is.

No contract in boxing can stop a boxer from retiring or vacating their titles.

[PunchyPotorff]

You're clearly confused and ignorant in regards to contract laws. Kovalev could not sue Ward, nor any other boxer, for retiring. The stipulations for a rematch are only applicable to an active boxer. Stop the foolishness.

Like I said bubba, Ward would be laughed outta town any time he'd go to any boxing event if he'd retired. He may as well have put a sign on his back 'I'm Scared Of Kovalev'. So yeah, he HAD to take this fight.

[TheUptownKid]

That's the problem, these so called boxing fans cry about the best not fighting the best, but when they do and the boxer they hate wins...they get emotional and delusional. It's pathetic.

These are facts