Why would HBO ever decide to invest more $$$ in boxing next year?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #41
    Originally posted by snoopymiller
    All speculation and no substance... like I said, we are many years away from anybody in the digital realm throwing significant dollars at boxing.
    Boxing doesn't cost THAT much & these streaming sites are getting bigger by the day & boxing is getting smaller by the day. HBO & Netflix are competitors today, f#ck Showtime. And the technology to do this exists now. This isn't anything crazy, futuristic or complicated. Everything is in place now & it sounds like Amazon could be showing live Tennis in the near future which seems one step closer to live boxing being picked up by one of these players in this still emerging entertainment world.

    And respect on already going down from 2+ decades to several years on your time table.

    Dazn is a complimentary service to television rights. It buys OTT rights for regions that don't have digital distribution rights in place... in essence the lowest of all hanging fruit.
    But this is often how it starts. Like I said the transition is coming. You are even saying the transition is coming. Not sure why you are so confident & nah nah na na nah about me saying this could happen tomorrow or within several years & you saying it'll happen within several years to a couple decades. Its coming. We both agree. Anyone who knows anything about this stuff at all can see its coming. Thats f#cking that brother lol..

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      #42
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      The first thing I would do is forget about Canelo fighting on regular HBO and spend that money on better fights. I'd also invest more in Crawford. He's the futrue for HBO. He sells out his hometown. He sold out the small room at MSG and he's booked for the big room his next fight. He put 7,000 people in seats in Vegas which isn't easy. But they put his unification fight on PPV. That was ******. I'm still confused why he didn't get Indongo before Burns got him. That dude isn't demanding a million dollars. The Diaz fight is cool but HBO is paying for other guys to get belts but not for Crawford to get his belts. He's stuck at 140 becaue the best 147 fighters are with PBC and HBO won't pay them enough to fight on HBO. The Postol fight in HBO championship boxing, Diaz last year, and Indongo this year and then you put him on PPV with one of the other PBC fighters. Canelo has his built in audience but he'll never be a crossover star. Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev will never be crossover stars. Ward will never be a crossover star. Crawford is the only one on their network with the potential to be a crossover star becasue he has the same audience as Floyd Mayweather. Nobody else on that network has that type of audience.
      So basically your strategy would be to simply buy Terrence Crawford fights?

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        #43
        Originally posted by snoopymiller
        So basically your strategy would be to simply buy Terrence Crawford fights?
        You must be a re re. You asked what would be the first thing I'd do and I gave you the first thing I'd do.

        The most important thing is they have to pull away from Canelo and start investing more in Crawford. Canelo isn't giving them the fight they want and from the looks of it he's more interested in doing circus fights. Khan, drop down to fight a nobody in Smith, jump up to 164.5 to fight Chavez Jr. HBO wants the GGG fight and Canelo won't give it to them. Nelson has to stop being Golden Boy's cuck
        Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 04-03-2017, 10:07 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          You must be a re re. You asked what would be the first thing I'd do and I gave you the first thing I'd do.

          The most important thing is they have to pull away from Canelo and start investing more in Crawford. Canelo isn't giving them the fight they want and from the looks of it he's more interested in doing circus fights. Khan, drop down to fight a nobody in Smith, jump up to 164.5 to fight Chavez Jr. HBO wants the GGG fight and Canelo won't give it to them. Nelson has to stop being Golden Boy's cuck
          LOL.

          I must say... thats a pretty piss poor plan. He's already doing a Crawford fight next month and will likely do another Crawford fight in the later summer.

          That's all you got for solutions?

          lolz

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            #45
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Boxing doesn't cost THAT much & these streaming sites are getting bigger by the day & boxing is getting smaller by the day. HBO & Netflix are competitors today, f#ck Showtime. And the technology to do this exists now. This isn't anything crazy, futuristic or complicated. Everything is in place now & it sounds like Amazon could be showing live Tennis in the near future which seems one step closer to live boxing being picked up by one of these players in this still emerging entertainment world.

            And respect on already going down from 2+ decades to several years on your time table.



            But this is often how it starts. Like I said the transition is coming. You are even saying the transition is coming. Not sure why you are so confident & nah nah na na nah about me saying this could happen tomorrow or within several years & you saying it'll happen within several years to a couple decades. Its coming. We both agree. Anyone who knows anything about this stuff at all can see its coming. Thats f#cking that brother lol..
            Yeah... you're not really saying much that creates any insightful points. It's obviously coming...

            I'd say realistically it will happen beyond 2030... when some entity will invest digital $$$ in boxing above $100k per event. Anything less than that amount is nothing and has in fact already happened if you know the industry lol

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              #46
              Originally posted by snoopymiller
              LOL.

              I must say... thats a pretty piss poor plan. He's already doing a Crawford fight next month and will likely do another Crawford fight in the later summer.

              That's all you got for solutions?

              lolz
              This is coming from a guy who can't see the importance of streaming services like Netflix as the future of boxing and all sports. Not really gonna take you serious.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                Netflix is getting stronger every year exponentially. Budgeting for shows and new measures is a priority. Netflix boxing will be a new thing
                Are u making up Netflix boxing or is it a real thing?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by snoopymiller
                  I'd say realistically it will happen beyond 2030...
                  I'll take the under on your "realistic" take.

                  For sure Top Rank, Golden Boy, PBC or some other boxing entity will sign a deal with a major player or a new guy in the market to show fights on a streaming network before 13 years+ from now.

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                  • asgarth
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                    #49
                    I really hope Netflix will invest in boxing. Would be my #1 wish for christmas. First of all, they will hold the rights for broadcasting, so normally I should be able to stream boxing fights from netflix from germany and dont have to watch sometimes bad, sometimes leaky streams.

                    Netflix has a real big budget. For 2017 they want to spend 6 billion dollar for their content. They paid 60 million dollar for Brad Pitts new movie.
                    So if they are interested, they could easily have a reasonable budget for boxing. How much does HBO spend nowadays? 20-30 millionen a year? thats not much for Netflix.

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                      #50
                      Ratings don't matter thats much with paytv, plenty of shows have gone on with very low ratings.

                      What matters is unique subscribers, if they can spend less and people will keep paying they will do that.

                      If the casuals who have HBO for GOT aren't watching it's not a big deal.

                      Its only when those who have HBO mainly for boxing start unsubscribing that they will start doing more.

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