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Nothing he can tell his bosses. He has to be smarter with allocating the budget. You still have to be able to put on quality fights with a lower budget even if that mean less fights but more quality fights. I would have no problem with that.
Canelo owes them one fight a year on regular HBO. They have to save enough money to accomodate him. Like I said, last year when his fight was cancelled, they were able to put on more shows. Canelo isn't fighting anyone worth a damn on regular HBO so in my opinion they should stop allocating money for his fight on regular HBO. Or they need to make him fight early in the year that way they won't end up in the situation they were in last year. That money has to be spent, it can't be carried over into next year. You ever work with budgets? Don't spend it and next year they'll cut it
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Why don't you provide some examples of match ups that would provide the value you state is possible...Nothing he can tell his bosses. He has to be smarter with allocating the budget. You still have to be able to put on quality fights with a lower budget even if that mean less fights but more quality fights. I would have no problem with that.
Canelo owes them one fight a year on regular HBO. They have to save enough money to accomodate him. Like I said, last year when his fight was cancelled, they were able to put on more shows. Canelo isn't fighting anyone worth a damn on regular HBO so in my opinion they should stop allocating money for his fight on regular HBO. Or they need to make him fight early in the year that way they won't end up in the situation they were in last year. That money has to be spent, it can't be carried over into next year. You ever work with budgets? Don't spend it and next year they'll cut itComment
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Possible matchups change throughout the year so what could be a good matchup today may not be a good one in a couple of months because fighters lose or other fighters emerge.
But let's take a look at some mistakes they made last year that could've been avoided.
Luis Ortiz vs. Tony Thompson
Ortiz was the only HW they had, besides Klitschko but he was waiting on Fury at the time. Ortiz wasn't in postion to fight anyone for a mandatory. And if he had been in position to fight Parker, Joshua, or Wilder, Golden Boy wasn't winning the purse bid so his next fight wouldn't have been on HBO. HBO had nobody for him to fight his next fight. He had to go to Hearn to get opponents. And they bought the Malik Scott fight.
Crawford vs. Postol should never had been on PPV. The purses for that fight weren't even outrageous. The Bradley/Rios-Lomachenko/Koasicha card had higher purses and it was on regular HBO in 2015. The Crawford-Molina card purses were similar to the Crawford-Postol purses
They screwed up the Kovalev-Ward build up. After Kovalev-Pascal II and Ward-Barrera they were on the right track. Then Kovalev had to fight in Russia on a monday night on HBO and Brand was Ward's last opponent before Kovalev. Remove that Ortiz-Thompson card and Canelo's regular HBO card and you'll have enough money to show Kovalev-Chilemba on Championship boxing and get Ward a better opponent.
And if you're going to have Canelo fight once a year on Regular HBO do it in the first quarter of the year, that way you'll know what you have left for the rest of the year instead of scrambling to get fights at the end of the year when/if his fights cancels. But I would do away with that all together.Comment
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This ain't "back in the day". Sh^t can change faster as technology improves.
I'm not saying they'll show a Top Rank fight on Netflix in 2019 & the world of TV crashes to the ground the next day. There will be moves towards that end.This thing ain't complex... as soon as a digital entity can create comparable revenue for a live event as TV networks can, premium sports are staying on TV. You can say TV is dying all you want... it doesn't negate the fact that it will take much time for the transition to take place.
And just did some random searches.
Looks like there is already a Netflix for live sports its just not in the US.
The only thing standing between most Netflix users and complete cord-cutting is live sports. Binging House of Cards is all good, but American culture is well rooted in the notion of football and a can of Bud Light (shudder). Even big players like Apple have tried (and failed!) to put together a streaming TV package that includes sports, but now one European startup appears to have pulled it off. Kinda.
DAZN is very much like Netflix, but for certain sports. For a flat fee of about $12 a month, users get access to on-demand and live-streaming soccer, NFL, NBA, ice hockey and rugby, to name a few. Sounds perfect! But, it’s technically only available to users in Germany, Austria and Switzerland right now.
Amazon is also a player & apparently they are actively looking into live sports now.
Amazon is allegedly looking into streaming live sports to take down traditional cable subscriptions and Netflix.
That's the word coming from Bloomberg, citing "people with knowledge of the matter." Amazon is reportedly seeking streaming rights to sports that would appeal to a global audience, including tennis, golf, soccer and car racing.
"Amazon has been leaning forward on sports," Tennis Channel Chief Executive Officer Ken Solomon tells the publication. "They want to be a new age [multiple-system operator]." Solomon claims his network has been in discussions with Amazon over streaming rights for over a year.
Netflix said they wouldn't mess with live sports unless they "created" them, but with boxing & other startup or bootstrapable sports I think you could create your own little league or tournament. And honestly I don't see how it'd be all that difficult to strike up a ESPN/Top Rank sorta deal (or ESPN2/GBP sorta deal these days), but with Netflix that wouldn't have some outrageous rights fee like mainstream sports require. Lets not forget that HBO is still considered the industry leader in the business with a $20M budget. You could throw $5M-$10M at Arum or Oscar for weekly or monthly shows & they'd blow the Netflix President to have access to their 86M subscribers.
Netflix content boss Ted Sarandos said the streaming giant could one day get into the live sports games — but only if it owned and created the event itself.
The Los Gatos, Calif., company isn’t interested in buying rights from established sports leagues because, according to Sarandos, “the leagues hold all the pricing power.”Comment
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All speculation and no substance... like I said, we are many years away from anybody in the digital realm throwing significant dollars at boxing.This ain't "back in the day". Sh^t can change faster as technology improves.
I'm not saying they'll show a Top Rank fight on Netflix in 2019 & the world of TV crashes to the ground the next day. There will be moves towards that end.
And just did some random searches.
Looks like there is already a Netflix for live sports its just not in the US.
Amazon is also a player & apparently they are actively looking into live sports now.
Netflix said they wouldn't mess with live sports unless they "created" them, but with boxing & other startup or bootstrapable sports I think you could create your own little league or tournament. And honestly I don't see how it'd be all that difficult to strike up a ESPN/Top Rank sorta deal (or ESPN2/GBP sorta deal these days), but with Netflix that wouldn't have some outrageous rights fee like mainstream sports require. Lets not forget that HBO is still considered the industry leader in the business with a $20M budget. You could throw $5M-$10M at Arum or Oscar for weekly or monthly shows & they'd blow the Netflix President to have access to their 86M subscribers.
http://nypost.com/2015/12/07/netflix...one-condition/
LOLing at the notion that Amazon or Netflix would throw $5 million at GBP or Top Rank just because. Literally lol
Dazn is a complimentary service to television rights. It buys OTT rights for regions that don't have digital distribution rights in place... in essence the lowest of all hanging fruit.
I don't think you have much knowledge of how complex sports rights is... not surprising though.Last edited by snoopymiller; 04-03-2017, 09:29 PM.Comment
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What do you mean monday morning qb? Did you not read what I said?
Before Ortiz vs. Thompson it was known that HBO didn't have any other Heavyweights to offer Ortiz. It was known before the fight he wouldn't be in a mandatory fight for any of the other heavies. Without that fight Postol/Crawford could've been on HBO championship boxing
It's also known that Canelo isn't fighting anybody worth a damn on his regular HBO fight. He fought Liam Smith on PPV ffs. If Smith is PPV imagine what opponent will be on regular HBO. That's a waste of their budget. But they held onto that money for his December fight which meant Kovalev had to got to Russia and fight on a monday night on HBO and Ward opponent was Brand because they couldn't afford anyone else. That killed momentum for the PPV and they numbers reflected that.
These are known knowns, not known unknonws.Comment
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The first thing I would do is forget about Canelo fighting on regular HBO and spend that money on better fights. I'd also invest more in Crawford. He's the futrue for HBO. He sells out his hometown. He sold out the small room at MSG and he's booked for the big room his next fight. He put 7,000 people in seats in Vegas which isn't easy. But they put his unification fight on PPV. That was ******. I'm still confused why he didn't get Indongo before Burns got him. That dude isn't demanding a million dollars. The Diaz fight is cool but HBO is paying for other guys to get belts but not for Crawford to get his belts. He's stuck at 140 becaue the best 147 fighters are with PBC and HBO won't pay them enough to fight on HBO. The Postol fight in HBO championship boxing, Diaz last year, and Indongo this year and then you put him on PPV with one of the other PBC fighters. Canelo has his built in audience but he'll never be a crossover star. Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev will never be crossover stars. Ward will never be a crossover star. Crawford is the only one on their network with the potential to be a crossover star becasue he has the same audience as Floyd Mayweather. Nobody else on that network has that type of audience.Comment
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