Comments Thread For: Here We Go Again: Canelo vs. Golovkin On Hold Again?

[Verus]

This is ****** so Oscar gave GGG a 15m offer that ****** Loeffler refused to accept and rolled the dice by letting the Jacobs ppvs come out before taking the deal. Jacobs fight bombed now Oscar is saying that offer is off the table. I'm giving you a new offer that reflects your draw as a ppv fighter and it will be less. If Loeffler again turns down the offer that is his fault. GGG is demanding more money then he clearly is worth. His leverage only drops more if he double downs his first mistake and doesn't take the best offer now because Chavez is going to do amazing ppvs and blow GGG/Jacobs out the water. The offer today will be better then day the Chavez numbers come out.

K2 refusing to drop weight last year killed the fight. And now they pricing themselves out. They have no one to blame if the fight doesn't happen. Golden Boy ain't running a charity where they should just overpay and give in to the B side demands when he barely does 100k buys in the biggest fight of his career.

Pardon the pun, you are right on the money with your take on this! A fighter's value does not reflect how good he is as much it reflects how many fans and money he draws in to watch the fight.

[Shape up]

I already answered you but you are too ****** to understand everyone knows GGG was the mandatory and if all he wants is the belt then he didn't have to give in to ANY of canelo demands and he was going to be handed the belt. But if he wanted or wants to fight canelo belt or no belt he's the ppv star and clear A side he calls the shots you fight on his terms. He fought cotto to land the mega fight not defend a belt at a weight he's never fought at you dumbazZ. It's that simple. Floyd fought canelo at catch weight for his belts at 154. He knew the mandatories and obligations he won and NEVER defended those belts at 154 for 2 years before he vacated it. Only reason he wasn't stripped was the crooked belts orgs broke their rules and never enforced the mandatory. Had they done so he was going to vacate the belt earlier like canelo. Floyd fought canelo for money didn't care about defending the belt.

You didn't answer anything you moron, all you said was he wanted to fight cotto for years ****head, what has floyd got to do with it, why did he pick khan as a warm up for 160, why did he spruik that he'd fight GGG there and then after the khan fight then do a complete 180 and give GGG his belt, I can't remember a Mexican doing that before, can you name 1

[thack]

Oscar is a lying little snake .He's killing boxing in U.S. when he could be doing the opposite.

[Verus]

Bad move! The worst thing any team can do it believe their own press releases. Team 3G rolled the dice and lost. Many of us saw this coming. The whole PPV business model has tanked since the Mayweather/Pacquiao fiasco. Now the GGG brand has declined in bargaining power not only with Canelo but with Saunders and other boxers as well. It would be ironic if Saunders withdraws his offer and fights Canelo instead in a September fight in England.

[Verus]

Oscar is a lying little snake .He's killing boxing in U.S. when he could be doing the opposite.

They are ALL lying little snakes! Sad to say. Lying in everyday life is called lying. Lying in business is called good business. Lying in politics is called good politics.

[kushking]

Canelo wanted to fight cotto for years before he had that ****** belt. I'm sorry if you can't understand adding cotto a hall of fame great to his resume meant more the any belt there are millions of belts and ppv stars like canelo, cotto, manny, Floyd don't care much about them they interchange them or drop them. It's about money first most and making fights fans want to see second. Most fans dont even know all the belts or care. Canelo never cared about the belt or any obligations that come with it cotto had it and put it on the line for their fight. Just like he's about to dump the belt he got from the smith fight he don't care about any of those mandatories he chooses who he fights like floyd, like cotto, like manny, ect. And he fought khan for money just like GGG fought brook difference is he at least fought at 155 and didn't drag a WW all the way up to 160 like hyocorite after he bashed canelo fighting khan like GGG did. See GGG understands this is about money which is why he still wants to fight canelo even though he has no belt at 160.

There is no belt that is going to give leverage to GGG over canelo he's the biggest draw and that's what matters. Sergio was the true king and none of that matter when he fought cotto. Needed to give up lbs give cotto first name billing, fight on his date, and give much bigger split...and sergio didn't have paper belts and spotty resume like GGG. He already sold more ppvs and wins over bigger names and still none of that mattered in negotiations with a bigger ppv star. He understood he had to give up concessions too bad GGG doesn't and that's why he fights bums and not big names. He thinks he is a superstar he has ppv star demands but isn't a ppv seller.

Thats the realist *hi* right there.

[Kigali]

Bad move! The worst thing any team can do it believe their own press releases. Team 3G rolled the dice and lost. Many of us saw this coming. The whole PPV business model has tanked since the Mayweather/Pacquiao fiasco. Now the GGG brand has declined in bargaining power not only with Canelo but with Saunders and other boxers as well. It would be ironic if Saunders withdraws his offer and fights Canelo instead in a September fight in England.

[kushking]

You didn't answer anything you moron, all you said was he wanted to fight cotto for years ****head, what has floyd got to do with it, why did he pick khan as a warm up for 160, why did he spruik that he'd fight GGG there and then after the khan fight then do a complete 180 and give GGG his belt, I can't remember a Mexican doing that before, can you name 1

Ok dumbass,he had always at the time said he wasnt going up to 160 yet, he fought kahn BECAUSE of money,he sold 600k ppv vs kahn, he gave gigina his belt BECAUSE gigina was trying to use it as leverage to get way more than he deserves & on his terms. Gigina & k2 tried to give canelo a 10 day deadline(while gbp & canelo testifying in court case they lost millions) to give in to their demands of 40% or else go to purse bid of 55-45 which only moronic wbc has in there rules. Knowing that canelo didnt want to vacate they assumed it gave them the leverage they wouldn't have otherwise,or canelo vacates & gigina gets yet another gifted vacant belt. Giginas only true words in his career were "just give me the belt,all I care about is the belt" as he knew his fanbois would have the audacity to call him undesputed champion even though hes yet to win a single belt from an actual champion,he has "won" a vacant belt off bum lemeiux,then he was gifted more vacant trinkets when wba gifted him vacant belt,then he robbed jacobs. The gigina nuthuggers should be ashamed to brag about this clown supposededly having all the belts when hes yet to legitimately win a single 1. Canelo was the lineal mw champ which he legitimately won off an actual champion. Yet these gstringers like you claim this bumlovkin deserves more money because of his gifted belts. This COWARD bumlovkin had the audacity to say he wants 50-50 split the other day on mexican tv. He admitted theres has been a 15 mil offer PLUS ppv upside just as dlh said. This clowns excuse has always been that he wants all the belts so hell ONLY fight at 160,& yet he never fought the legit champs when he had a chance but as soon as he thinks he can bully smaller guys he signs same day or steals their belts(yet wont fight at cw). He wont even rematch jacobs,hes now going to fight bum after bum & cash out vs canelo.

[hitking]

Is Oscar full of ****? Absolutely. Does the fact that Oscar is full of **** totally exempt GGG's side from any fault in this whole soap opera? The fact is, GGG has chosen to get in a d1ck measuring contest with a guy that's clearly a bigger star. GGG wouldn't budge on the weight issue. Then he turns down an offer that would more than double his career high payday. And most recently, its this thing of sandwiching a pointless fight with Saunders in between the Jacobs fight and potential Sept date with Canelo. I would be more in support of GGG in this situation if his side didn't act like the biggest diva in B-side big fight history.

Canelo has shown a willingness to go out, seek out the best fights (whether they made financial sense or not), and do what he had to do to make them happened. He went and made an Austin Trout fight, after Trout outclassed Cotto, with a Floyd payday on the table. He agreed to an extremely small money split and a catchweight as the B-side in order to make the Floyd fight happened. He went out and made the Lara fight, when it really didn't make financial sense. He basically allowed himself to be dictated to as a B-side against Cotto. When Canelo is probably the bigger draw of the two. So Canelo's track record of willingness to make the best fights happen is far better than GGG's.

[Cinci Champ]

honestly i think as long as boxing writers keep giving loughler and ggg a pass this fight wont happen. loughler is available to writers at an unprecedented level so they are all scared to call him out