Comments Thread For: Jacobs' Manager: GGG's Side Will Make Excuses to Avoid Rematch

[hitking]

Danny Jacobs is excellent. Don't diminish him just because you're actively searching for ways to diminish GGG.

Off the top of my head I know he beat Trinidad to get one and Keith Holmes to get another. I know that because I am pretty sure it was part of the tournament Don King put together. Trinidad beat William Joppy in his half while Hopkins beat Holmes. I'd half to look up box rec for the other ones.

Wait he got one from De La Hoya. I am pretty sure De La Hoya got a belt from Felix Sturm in a fight many people thought Dela Hoya lost. I never saw that fight but I remember hearing about it as being controversial. As a young Puerto Rican my early knowledge of the sport was built around Trinidad and the circles he swam in.

3 outta 4 ain't bad. He beat Segundo Mercado in their rematch after he was dropped twice in their first fight for Roy Jones vacated belt. Funny thing about Hopkins record is that for more than half of his reign. While respected, he wasn't viewed as great. He was basically viewed as, while a good fighter, a former RJ victim feasting on a mediocre division. what was more important to Hopkins career and legacy? Beating Tito, or winning all the belts? In those days, the WBC, WBA, and IBF were sufficient enough to be called undisputed. I honestly don't even know when the WBO gained enough relevance to be necessary in the equation. I scored DLH-Sturm for Sturm. But even in the buildup to Hopkins-DLH, Hopkins hold on the middleweight division was so concrete, the belt DLH brought to the fight was really nothing more than a footnote in history. I honestly had kinda forgotten that DLH even entered that fight as a "world champion."

And prior to Jacobs, that is basically how I felt about GGG in the middleweight division. Beating Saunders for his belt wasn't gonna make GGG anymore undisputed than he already is. Just like Hopkins beating DLH anymore undisputed than he already was. The only dispute in GGG's undisputed claim is that there's one guy that he's fought that he didn't clearly beat.

[yankees7448]

3 outta 4 ain't bad. He beat Segundo Mercado in their rematch after he was dropped twice in their first fight for Roy Jones vacated belt. Funny thing about Hopkins record is that for more than half of his reign. While respected, he wasn't viewed as great. He was basically viewed as, while a good fighter, a former RJ victim feasting on a mediocre division. what was more important to Hopkins career and legacy? Beating Tito, or winning all the belts? In those days, the WBC, WBA, and IBF were sufficient enough to be called undisputed. I honestly don't even know when the WBO gained enough relevance to be necessary in the equation. I scored DLH-Sturm for Sturm. But even in the buildup to Hopkins-DLH, Hopkins hold on the middleweight division was so concrete, the belt DLH brought to the fight was really nothing more than a footnote in history. I honestly had kinda forgotten that DLH even entered that fight as a "world champion."

And prior to Jacobs, that is basically how I felt about GGG in the middleweight division. Beating Saunders for his belt wasn't gonna make GGG anymore undisputed than he already is. Just like Hopkins beating DLH anymore undisputed than he already was. The only dispute in GGG's undisputed claim is that there's one guy that he's fought that he didn't clearly beat.

I get all that. I never disputed all that. Here is what you're not understanding.

1. While B-Hop wasn't respected by the boxing public until he beat Trinidad and De LaHoya when people talk about his accomplishments they still talk about his unification of the middleweight division and the long run of title defenses he had. You cannot separate B-Hop from his middleweight accomplishments.

2. De LaHoya and Trinidad were different types of fighters. They fought guys they should have avoided despite their status as the A-side because those guys dared to be great. B-Hop didn't have the name or the popularity to bring guys like that to the table. But those guys wanted his belts and they wanted the challenge. GGG is much the same. The only difference between what GGG has done and what B-Hop has done is that GGG is the more exciting fighter. Unfortunately, for GGG it doesn't seem like he is going to be able to replicate what B-Hop did. While De LaHoya and Trinidad dared to be great their modern day equivalents (Cotto and Canelo) are divas who talk about how they are the A-side and everyone else is beneath them. And yet he's the one whose getting accused of not daring to be great.

[PoserExposer]

To your point, Jacobs was the B side. They knew GGG was looking at BJ Saunders and Canelo well before they fought. No fphucks given, Jacobs was outpunched, outlanded and dropped. Time to take their L and regroup..

Why do y'all keep talking about a rematch clause. The rematch clause is for the A-side. B-siders don't get rematch clauses.

[KaidouTheBeast]

GGG have bigger fish to get...all belts next, the biggest payday in september, and then jacobs rematch in december or early 2018...full schedule to build a legacy...

[kushking]

GGG have bigger fish to get...all belts next, the biggest payday in september, and then jacobs rematch in december or early 2018...full schedule to build a legacy...

You clowns act like your his manager or like hes ever done anything to demonstrate that hes going to challenge himself. He was forced to fight jacobs & CLEARLY now regrets it, so now hes doing what he does best chasing bums for minimal pay on non ppv.:bukkake:

[kushking]

I get all that. I never disputed all that. Here is what you're not understanding.

1. While B-Hop wasn't respected by the boxing public until he beat Trinidad and De LaHoya when people talk about his accomplishments they still talk about his unification of the middleweight division and the long run of title defenses he had. You cannot separate B-Hop from his middleweight accomplishments.

2. De LaHoya and Trinidad were different types of fighters. They fought guys they should have avoided despite their status as the A-side because those guys dared to be great. B-Hop didn't have the name or the popularity to bring guys like that to the table. But those guys wanted his belts and they wanted the challenge. GGG is much the same. The only difference between what GGG has done and what B-Hop has done is that GGG is the more exciting fighter. Unfortunately, for GGG it doesn't seem like he is going to be able to replicate what B-Hop did. While De LaHoya and Trinidad dared to be great their modern day equivalents (Cotto and Canelo) are divas who talk about how they are the A-side and everyone else is beneath them. And yet he's the one whose getting accused of not daring to be great.

And quit bringing up bhop,he was undisputed middleweight champ for more than a decade,he wasnt fighting bum champs every other yr for vacant belts,he was way younger & then challenged himself whenever possible by knowing his worth & sacrificing to get big fights unlike lil girl, bhop proved himself unlike gstrings.

[deanrw]

The idea of Jacobs/Lemeiux sounds great. Not sure if either fighters management team wants to risk an L when big money fights against Alvarez or Golovkin (yes BJS if he can win in the proposed June fight with 3G).
It would be very smart to get one or both back on in the next Canelo or Golovkin fight for the exposure.

You put Jacobs vs Lemieux on Showtime and they would both get good paydays, at least equal to what they would get vs GGG or Canelo, who would want all the money.

I personally like that fight. Lemieux does not seem like the type to give a **** who his opponent is.

[j0zef]

What is this tool talking about? They were the ones who pushed the fight back to March from last December, and it's well known that Saunders and Canelo are next.

What clowns.

[aboutfkntime]

Oh, now you guys are just getting ridiculous. You guys are talking about Sergio Mora as if he was the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. Why would GGG have been troubled by a guy whose puzzle was solved by the Legendary Brian Vera twice.

Haterz. S*it is getting ridiculous now.

the perfect opponent for a fighter who is trying to establish himself on the world stage is an ex-champ who has clearly faded..... boxing has ALWAYS worked that way, that fight was a no-brainer

and yet, here you are..... insisting that Golovkin would have demanded a better opponent than Mora, DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T

Mora/Lara/Ward..... ALL mover/spoilers who were notoriously difficult to look good against, ALL were avoided, ALL received a big bunch of childish excuses explaining why..... b,b,b,but...

[aboutfkntime]

I get all that. I never disputed all that. Here is what you're not understanding.

1. While B-Hop wasn't respected by the boxing public until he beat Trinidad and De LaHoya when people talk about his accomplishments they still talk about his unification of the middleweight division and the long run of title defenses he had. You cannot separate B-Hop from his middleweight accomplishments.

2. De LaHoya and Trinidad were different types of fighters. They fought guys they should have avoided despite their status as the A-side because those guys dared to be great. B-Hop didn't have the name or the popularity to bring guys like that to the table. But those guys wanted his belts and they wanted the challenge. GGG is much the same. The only difference between what GGG has done and what B-Hop has done is that GGG is the more exciting fighter. Unfortunately, for GGG it doesn't seem like he is going to be able to replicate what B-Hop did. While De LaHoya and Trinidad dared to be great their modern day equivalents (Cotto and Canelo) are divas who talk about how they are the A-side and everyone else is beneath them. And yet he's the one whose getting accused of not daring to be great.

could have fought Mora, but he CHOSE not to

could have fought Ward, but he CHOSE not to

could have fought Lara, but he CHOSE not to

could have fought Cotto, but he CHOSE not to

could have fought Canelo, but he CHOSE not to

could have rematched Jacobs, but he CHOSE not to


hardly daring to be great it is ?


what would look better, this resume.....
Mora
Ward
Lara
Cotto
Canelo
Jacobs 2x

or this resume.....
Pepe Le Pew
Jacobs *