Once ggg unifies what will canelo do?

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  • Dean_Razorback
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    #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS
    Canelo already showed fans he doesn't care about titles by dropping the WBC belt and handing it over to Golovkin rather than having to fight him. He's fighting Chavez jr in a non-title fight next. He only cares about making money not making history.
    canelo doesn't care about titles? what are you talking about?

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    • Ce1ska
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      #22
      If Canelo doesn't care about belts, why did he fight Liam Smith?

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      • AllBoxingAD
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        #23
        I do believe that Oscar has convinced Canelo that he is beyond divisions and beyond belts.

        All those same guys GGG can fight will be willing to fight at Caneloweight, whatever that weight may be.

        And lets be honest, GGG wont keep all those belts for long, he will get tired of paying all those fees eventually.

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          #24
          Originally posted by satiev1
          So in other words alvarez will continue to fight bums and catch weights and never fight for a title as long as ggg holds all belts. Got it.
          Alvarez has no problem fighting Golovkin; the simple fact of the matter is that any Golovkin fight, will happen on terms that Alvarez offers.

          If Golovkin doesn't like the offer, Saul Alvarez will move on with his life and chase the biggest events he can find on his terms.

          Golovkin holding whatever belts he wants doesn't change the fact that a proper split on the fight is arguably 85/15 Alvarez, at Alvarez's preferred weight. If Golovkin insists on the full 160lbs, a couple points come off of the 15% offer

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          • RussB23
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            #25
            Rematch cotto or drag some 154 pounder up in weight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Alvarez has no problem fighting Golovkin; the simple fact of the matter is that any Golovkin fight, will happen on terms that Alvarez offers.

              If Golovkin doesn't like the offer, Saul Alvarez will move on with his life and chase the biggest events he can find on his terms.

              Golovkin holding whatever belts he wants doesn't change the fact that a proper split on the fight is arguably 85/15 Alvarez, at Alvarez's preferred weight. If Golovkin insists on the full 160lbs, a couple points come off of the 15% offer
              Why exactly would they deduct 15% just because of 160? Thats the dumbest **** ive ever heard.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BlakBread904
                you are smoking crack if you think Canelo will fight Zurdo at ANY POINT IN TIME.
                Zurdo Ramirez and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr are, physically, about the same size, and Alvarez is going up to 164.5lbs for that fight, with no rehydration clause on the fight.

                Alvarez likely maxes out at 168lbs, so why not fight Ramirez?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RussTBE
                  Why exactly would they deduct 15% just because of 160? Thats the dumbest **** ive ever heard.
                  Said nothing about deducting 15%; a fair offer, based on the business that each guy has shown that they can do, imo, would be 85% of the fighter's take to Alvarez, 15% of the fighter's take to Golovkin, and the fight at 156lbs.

                  For every extra pound that Golovkin wants to not cut, his take comes down an additional point

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                  • RussB23
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Said nothing about deducting 15%; a fair offer, based on the business that each guy has shown that they can do, imo, would be 85% of the fighter's take to Alvarez, 15% of the fighter's take to Golovkin, and the fight at 156lbs.

                    For every extra pound that Golovkin wants to not cut, his take comes down an additional point
                    Whats the issue with him not cutting weight? And whats the issue with 160?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Alvarez is still the sport's biggest current star, basically beyond the belts at this point. You add that he'd still have the Golden Boy Magazine middleweight belt (unifying all of the belts, in my opinion, establishes a new lineage at the weight), and he'd likely still do what he's been doing. Take on the biggest fights possible and the biggest events possible.

                      Alvarez vs David Lemieux (after the performance against a fading Curtis Stevens) is now the type of explosive fight that would entice MGM Resorts to host, Willie Monroe Jr's style still sucks (and the beef being what it is), but Alvarez vs Jacobs/Khurtsidze/Monroe Jr are the types of potential fights that Alvarez could likely sell out NYC with.

                      You add that Saul Alvarez just got 50k people to come see him fight an unknown fighter in the US, at AT&T Stadium, and he's basically at the point where he can fight anyone and do massive business in TX, all while owing no obligations to anyone (likely until he decides that he wants to challenge for a belt at 168lbs).

                      Golovkin could hold all of the belts, but that also means that he'll have to fulfill his obligations; Khurtsidze is currently owed a title shot by the WBO, Jermall Charlo and Sergiy Derevyanchenko are likely 1-2 fights away from being owed shots by the WBC and IBF, respectively and, with the Jacobs fight having happened, the WBA's clock has already started and Hassan N'Dam is their lead challenger.

                      While Golovkin is left to simply cycle through his mandatories (none of the four possible fights mentioned are earnestly PPV fights, whether they end up on PPV or not), Alvarez is simply left chasing the biggest, most marketable fights that he can make at whatever weight he wants (keeping to his 2 PPV/1 regular HBO schedule).

                      Alvarez doesn't thirst after the trinkets the way Golovkin does, so Golovkin having all of the shiny trinkets isn't really going to change this for Alvarez.
                      LOL NYC no one cares about ginger there, there isn't many Mexicans there.

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