IT'S OFFICIAL! Andre Ward is P4P King!

[techliam]

There is no official P4P list because it's fantasy

It's either Ward or Kovalev though, who can claim to be the sports top dog.

There's not enough evidence to justify putting one on top of the other, other than an official decision.

Since P4P is personal judgement, official decisions should have no sway at all, if your personal judgment is to be respected

[Robbie Barrett]

Pound for pound is subjective and subject to consensus.

Majority of pundits and fans had Ward losing. Therefore it's silly to assume there's a consensus that he's p4p number 1 because he clearly isn't.

Those P4P lists are voted on by pundits and experts. That's how they're decided.

[Xi_]

Ward is the new undisputed tbe.....haters are mad as ****.

[techliam]

But he didn't get the decision, same way Jacobs didn't as you keep repeating.

Ward is #1 in the rankings that we all deem the most credible.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and "stay salty".

You need to justify your second sentence. There is no 'official' P4P list, certainly not one most people gravitate towards as you're suggesting.

There's a huge difference in respecting divisional rankings, and P4P rankings. TBRB are only good for one of the above

[Hype job]

Those P4P lists are voted on by pundits and experts. That's how they're decided.

Who writes The Ring's pound for pound list? Do they tally up a consensus?

[Robbie Barrett]

Who writes The Ring's pound for pound list? Do they tally up a consensus?

I'll take their opinion over some fanboys on a boxing forum. It isn't a popularity contest, which morons like you think it is.

[Hype job]

I'll take their opinion over some fanboys on a boxing forum. It isn't a popularity contest, which morons like you think it is.

[Robbie Barrett]

Congrats you've realised boxing is opinion. Rankings = Opinion, P4P = Opinion. There's no way a fighter can actually prove he's the best and champion unless he fights every fighter, so that's opinion too.

[Raonic]

The Ring doesn't have Pacquiao?

[daggum]

There is no official P4P list because it's fantasy

It's either Ward or Kovalev though, who can claim to be the sports top dog.

There's not enough evidence to justify putting one on top of the other, other than an official decision.

Since P4P is personal judgement, official decisions should have no sway at all, if your personal judgment is to be respected

there's the fight in which kovalev comprehesively outboxed and outlanded ward. lets stop pretending it was a razor close fight just because the offiical decision was terrible. round 10 to ward tells you that they were not letting kov win that fight.