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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #91
    Originally posted by King_
    There's nothing special about Cliff Rold's eyes. He could have been a boxing historian sent from the future to judge last night, and it still wouldn't give him an advantage in judging a fight over any average person who studies even for 5 days how to judge a boxing match and what to watch for.
    Cliff is respected, understands boxing, and is free of agendas. He's one of the trustworthy guys in our sport.

    If he felt a fight went a certain way then 9 times out of 10 that's exactly how it went.

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    • King_
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      #92
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Cliff is respected, understands boxing, and is free of agendas. He's one of the trustworthy guys in our sport.

      If he felt a fight went a certain way then 9 times out of 10 that's exactly how it went.
      I understand he is respected and understands boxing. But the bold is your opinion.

      I also understand he is just a regular man, like us. His boxing knowledge may be great for discussions at a barber shop..... but what is the relevance in that when judging a fight?

      You can read the universal boxing-judging handbook and study it for a week, and be able to judge a boxing match just as good as Cliff Rold.

      Now if we're talking about writing a historical article with facts, etc? That's different, 9/10 I'm sure his point would be more valid then others.

      But not judging. His eyes do not have super powers, he sees the same stuff as us- his boxing history doesn't take him "inside the mind" of the fighters and give him some advantage to judging

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        #93
        Originally posted by Robs
        Jacobs won but the politics of boxing didnt allow him to win. First off, he was a 7-1 underdog and I am sure a lot of ppl placed their money on him in Vegas so strings had to be pulled to make sure he didnt get the victory. Second, he pulled a sheisty move by not showing up for the next day weigh in mandated by the IBF. Clearly he was far bigger than GGG tonight and all he did was remain cautious instead of dominating the smaller guy. Thirdly, if GGG would lost this would give Canelo all the more reasons to back out of a fight with GGG because clearly Canelo is shook. Jacobs won the fight but with the size advantage he had tonight he was suppose to outclass GGG or knock him out which he didnt.
        If he was a 7-1 underdog how could a lot of people put money on him then? The odds would have been closer. Jacobs made it a good fight but still lost.

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          #94
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Cotto was on his bike going backwards. Had he come forward aggressive like he fought manny, Floyd and others canelo knocks him out. Cotto didn't want to make the fight a war he wanted to make it a tactical boxing match throwing a career high 500 jabs backing up all night. So canelo adapted and out boxed him. If he comes forward more reckless leaves himself open for counters he gets dropped. Do you really think little manny pacquaio hits harder then canelo and that's why he kod cotto but canelo didnt? Or did cotto think he was the bigger man so he tried to walk manny down and got lit up against canelo he knew that wouldn't work so got on his bike and tried to box to a decision. Styles make fights.

          If GGG intends to run away on his bike from canelo all night then damn right no chance he gets knocked out. but if he comes running in head first no defense like he always fights and like he did against brook who is smaller and doesn't hit as hard as canelo. He will eat a lot of leather and won't just end up with his face looking like hamburger meat he getting kod.
          Who has GGG ran away from all night in any fight? Who has knocked GGG down? Then all of a sudden Canelo is going to come in drop and ko GGG? Give me a break, Jacobs had at least ten pounds on GGG and still got dropped and couldnt hurt GGG. Take a week off, let the emotions settle and log back in.

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            #95
            Originally posted by King_
            I understand he is respected and understands boxing. But the bold is your opinion.

            I also understand he is just a regular man, like us. His boxing knowledge may be great for discussions at a barber shop..... but what is the relevance in that when judging a fight?

            You can read the universal boxing-judging handbook and study it for a week, and be able to judge a boxing match just as good as Cliff Rold.

            Now if we're talking about writing a historical article with facts, etc? That's different, 9/10 I'm sure his point would be more valid then others.

            But not judging. His eyes do not have super powers, he sees the same stuff as us- his boxing history doesn't take him "inside the mind" of the fighters and give him some advantage to judging
            The relevance is that he's not just some bum poster with an agenda telling you how he scored the fight for his favorite boxer.

            He's a professional who covers boxing for a living telling you how the fight went.

            There's a difference in credibility.

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              #96
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              The relevance is that he's not just some bum poster with an agenda telling you how he scored the fight for his favorite boxer.

              He's a professional who covers boxing for a living telling you how the fight went.

              There's a difference in credibility.
              You act as if all professionals who cover boxing for a living are telling us that Jacobs won... obviously not the case.

              If you think Jacobs won 9-3, you're smoking crack. 9-3? Lets be real here- there's no chance in hell Jacobs won 9 rounds

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                #97
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                The relevance is that he's not just some bum poster with an agenda telling you how he scored the fight for his favorite boxer.

                He's a professional who covers boxing for a living telling you how the fight went.

                There's a difference in credibility.
                Take a poll of 100 boxing professionals and ask if Jacobs won 9-3.....

                100% Guarantee you nobody but somebody who is literally losing his vision will say yes.... Sorry bro.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Vadrigar.
                  Were you watching boxnation? Barring the knockdown I saw Jacobs outbox him and give him fits. Golovkin looked clueless in there.

                  I'm going to download the HBO version now.
                  Yeah Boxnation.

                  Everyone on the Boxnatiom broadcast had it for Jacobs.

                  Albeit all conceeded it was a close.

                  Jacobs let it be close to be honest he gave it away at times. I agree at times be made him look silly but I always said if his chin holds up he has a great chance. He's the more skilled fighter IMO.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
                    What?

                    Jacobs by 2 rounds, take off one point and he still wins. Golovkin doesn't get an extra point.

                    If you scored it 7-5 (2 rounds) that would be 115-113, take off a point for the knockdown and it becomes 114-113.
                    Sorry my math failed me for a sec there. You are right.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth
                      Who has GGG ran away from all night in any fight? Who has knocked GGG down? Then all of a sudden Canelo is going to come in drop and ko GGG? Give me a break, Jacobs had at least ten pounds on GGG and still got dropped and couldnt hurt GGG. Take a week off, let the emotions settle and log back in.
                      That's my point dumbazzz he won't fight like cotto did on his bike all night. He will do what he only knows how come face first and eat shots. Against a sharp skilled puncher like canelo it will be target practice he loses a easy decision or eats too many counterpunches and gets stopped late. Look at the shots he was eating and how his face looked from a brook a welterweight who isn't as skilled and doesn't hit as hard as canelo. No matter how good your chin is if your defense sucks too many of those is a problem.

                      Jacobs doesn't have canelo chin or defense that's why he got dropped. Got dropped by light punching mora who had no power at 154 let alone 160. Canelo will outbox him take away his power once you do that GGG is nothing special and can't adjust on the fly

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