Jacobs is a cheater and here is why!

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Did he know, at the time, that he would weight in for the fight in the AM and then rehydration weigh in the next AM?

usually its PM weigh in and AM rehydration weigh in

Wth? Why wouldn't he know? It's not like 3 days before the fight they tell you, hey, we're weigh in in the AM on friday.

Lemieux Misses Second-Day IBF Weigh-In for Stevens Fight
03-11-2017, 11:40 AM

Seems to me like it's an AM thing.

[Eff Pandas]

GGG can not fight if he has a problem with this weight situation. This isn't unlike a coming in overweight situation in my eyes. Guys get paid extra when that happens, which GGG & his team should be looking into, or they even call off the fight. Although to be fair I don't think I've heard of a fight called off by a fighter because of a 2nd weigh in situation, but it'll happen sooner or later. F#ck the belts.

And regardless of all that I believe fighters &/or alphabet groups should be looking into fines or something to entice guys into making their 2nd weigh in in the future as these last couple weeks have been an eye opener with how lax guys are being with this as of late. I'd also like to see commissions require 2nd day weigh in in all fights if we aren't altering the making weight process to something more reasonable.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Why doesn't Golovkin Withdraw from the fight?

You know is not that simply. -_-

What a coward.

Nobody really cares, except for all the exposed hypocrites.

I mean, that's the whole point of this thread. Lol

Here's the difference.

Would Lemieux-Stevens have been an eliminator if the IBF knew Lemieux wouldn't follow the rules? If not, would Stevens have taken the fight?

This has nothing to do with Lemieux-Stevens.

Truth.

Now the question is whether he's been planning to do this all along or because he realized/was told that he can't keep the weight off him.

In either case, I lost a lot of respect for him. He shouldn't resort to grabbing every advantage he possibly can. Be a man, put on your god damn boxing gloves try to beat the guy in front of you. So many divas in the sport.

I would think so. This would fall under 'gameplanning' IMO.

GGG can not fight if he has a problem with this weight situation. This isn't unlike a coming in overweight situation in my eyes. Guys get paid extra when that happens, which GGG & his team should be looking into, or they even call off the fight. Although to be fair I don't think I've heard of a fight called off by a fighter because of a 2nd weigh in situation, but it'll happen sooner or later. F#ck the belts.

And regardless of all that I believe fighters &/or alphabet groups should be looking into fines or something to entice guys into making their 2nd weigh in in the future as these last couple weeks have been an eye opener with how lax guys are being with this as of late. I'd also like to see commissions require 2nd day weigh in in all fights if we aren't altering the making weight process to something more reasonable.

I don't think GGG would pull out of a 2.5m+ dollar fight because the other guy missed 2nd day weigh in. That would only show he isn't confident enough in himself on top of missing out on a payday.

Again, the point here was to expose the hypocrite who already got mentioned in this thread. For having double standards and spreading false info.

[yammy25]

There is no difference between lemieux and Jacobs

The lemieux fight was sanctioned by WBONABO aswell, and lemieux decided to **** off the IBF and go down that route because he was also ranked with them. hence he won the WBO Intercontinental.

Both lemieux and jacobs have decided to forego the IBF and gain a weight and size advantage instead, just because lemieux was ranked by the IBF makes his choice no different to that of jacobs because the IBF rules state a holder of another orgs belt automatically becomes an elite challenger and is considered higher than mandatory.

You cant call lemieux a cheat and jacobs not one, either they both are or they both arent.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Hopefully we see Jacobs do one of these tonight:

[Hov]

There is no difference between lemieux and Jacobs

The lemieux fight was sanctioned by WBONABO aswell, and lemieux decided to **** off the IBF and go down that route because he was also ranked with them. hence he won the WBO Intercontinental.

Both lemieux and jacobs have decided to forego the IBF and gain a weight and size advantage instead, just because lemieux was ranked by the IBF makes his choice no different to that of jacobs because the IBF rules state a holder of another orgs belt automatically becomes an elite challenger and is considered higher than mandatory.

You cant call lemieux a cheat and jacobs not one, either they both are or they both arent.

I disagree. This is a WBA mandatory. GGG-Jacobs had to happen under WBA rules either way. Jacobs has never fought under IBF rules. He never did same day weigh ins, why would he agree to do it now? Lemieux was a IBF fighter. He held the IBF belt. He knew the rules and decided to cheat.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't think GGG would pull out of a 2.5m+ dollar fight because the other guy missed 2nd day weigh in. That would only show he isn't confident enough in himself on top of missing out on a payday.

Thats silly & I don't believe that for a second. Its just a matter of what the situation is that'd require GGG to bounce from a fight. Its obviously not Jacobs making weight, but not making the 2nd weigh in weight. Or at very least its what the opponents weight would have to be to be considered too big a difference for the commission to allow the fight to take place.

[yammy25]

I disagree. This is a WBA mandatory. GGG-Jacobs had to happen under WBA rules either way. Jacobs has never fought under IBF rules. He never did same day weigh ins, why would he agree to do it now? Lemieux was a IBF fighter. He held the IBF belt. He knew the rules and decided to cheat.

You have absolutely no evidence to suggest Jacobs was not aware of a second day weigh in.

Each fighter is made aware of each sanctioning bodies rules that has a belt in that unification in writing long before the fight day when the sanctioning is granted by each body. That was months ago. If jacobs did not want to adhere to this when the IBF sanctioned the bout for unification then he should have said and the sanction would not have been granted.

Instead he said nothing, took the sanctioning of the fight and expressed willingness to pay the purse, only to then not show for the second weigh day, forego the IBF belt and not notify anyone including GGG camp so he could get an advantage.

You have already contradicted yourself by not providing reasons as to why jacobs was fine for the WBC 30 and 7 day weigh ins and he has never fought under WBC rules either.

I have never said lemieux wasnt aware, you are simply talking rubbish by saying Danny wasnt. Both fighters chose to forego the IBF 2nd weigh in rule to gain an advantage for their respective fights.

Your explanation for him stating he wants "all the belts" was that he mustve meant all of the others including the IBO just not the IBF LOOOL.

You are talking out of your arse. please stop making a fool of yourself.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I disagree. This is a WBA mandatory. GGG-Jacobs had to happen under WBA rules either way. Jacobs has never fought under IBF rules. He never did same day weigh ins, why would he agree to do it now? Lemieux was a IBF fighter. He held the IBF belt. He knew the rules and decided to cheat.

So why are they fighting for all the belts (except the IBF after this) and not just the WBA?

[BoxingFan85]

I disagree. This is a WBA mandatory. GGG-Jacobs had to happen under WBA rules either way. Jacobs has never fought under IBF rules. He never did same day weigh ins, why would he agree to do it now? Lemieux was a IBF fighter. He held the IBF belt. He knew the rules and decided to cheat.

Your argument makes sense if Jacobs had not signed to fight for IBF.. We all know all the belts are on the line and the org rules are always available to everyone via website and some of them in the contracts.. Surely people in the boxing business know more than us about org rules, so we can't say that he didn't know about same day weigh in..
Challenger for WBA doesn't mean he won't fight or win other titles when he fights the unified champ e.g Tyson Fury was mandatory for 2/3 orgs but he left will all the belts..